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Joanna Cherry (SNP) sacked

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LittleRa · 01/02/2021 14:26

twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1356233346565730304?s=21
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ArabellaScott · 12/02/2021 21:25

Yes, for sure. It just makes it more frightening when you read about this person.

Getting really, really fucked off with how women get so much flack. How do we even have any female politicians? I couldn't handle the stress. Something has to change.

MaudTheInvincible · 12/02/2021 21:01

I guess that contributed to the police assessment that it was a credible threat.

ArabellaScott · 12/02/2021 17:26

If it is who they say it is, that is utterly terrifying. Previous convictions. I hope he is put away where he can't hurt or terrorise anyone ever again.

MaudTheInvincible · 12/02/2021 16:52

Well apparently the police are fine with it, but I have to say I'm wary too, so I'm not linking to the video or posts.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 12/02/2021 16:30

Is that allowed - people have got into trouble for retweeting ‘named names’. I’m very curious though!

MaudTheInvincible · 12/02/2021 16:14

The name of the SNP member who sent the treat to JC which caused her to need police advice has been published on Twitter by an account called Bridges for Indy.

MoleSmokes · 11/02/2021 03:26

@CharlieParley

What I should add here is that the Rape Crisis Scotland complaint amounts to "How dare you ask for private messages exchanged by victims!"

And

"How dare you make disparaging remarks about messages exchanged by victims/about victims!"

However, that is not what happened. Committee requested messages exchanged between people holding a particular position in Scotland. They made remarks about them in that function.

They did not know (because the identity of the complainers is protected) that this included all of the complainers.

But thanks to Rape Crisis Scotland we all know that now.

Good grief! Read it. Not linking, for obvious reasons.

That statement was post the day after George Galloway uploaded this video. If he has done the Jigsaw ID, I wonder if he stands by this?

"Now there are many . . . who say things like, "Well 14 women couldn't have made that up". Well it depends who the 14 women were, doesn't it? And if you knew, which you cannot know because of the laws on anonymity, then you'd conclude, as I did long ago and Craig establishes in his affidavits today, that a conspiracy was hatched to send Alex Salmond to prison."

Viviennemary · 10/02/2021 23:44

I was never keen on Alex Salmond. But seems like there was a joint effort to stitch him up. I'd love to see the downfall of Nicola Sturgeon and her husband. They've got too big for their boots.

BlackForestCake · 10/02/2021 20:32

Why did Salmond’s many political enemies never bring his allegedly well-known sexpestiness up while he was first minister?

ArabellaScott · 10/02/2021 20:32

It doesn't alter what did come out - that Salmond was a touchy feely pest

On what basis are you claiming this 'came out'? Who said this, and when?

MissBarbary · 10/02/2021 19:39

[quote Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails]I’ll post it again here for anyone who may have missed it -

“After the video footage was released, Mr Jackson said: "To be clear...I do not regard Alex Salmond as a 'sex pest', and any contrary impression is wrong."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52081790[/quote]
Well he would say that- he was caught out speaking about a client on a train.

It doesn't alter what did come out - that Salmond was a touchy feely pest

Do you go for "sleepy cuddles" with your boss?

There's the often used cliché on here of "throwing women under a bus" Quite a few of you are happy to do just that- including trashing the statement issued by Rape Crisis Scotland.

No doubt this is just so boring- I'd still rather be boring than a hypocrite.

ArabellaScott · 10/02/2021 19:22

www.holyrood.com/news/view,joanna-cherry-says-snp-party-member-threatened-to-rape-her

'The people who are propagating the idea that I’m transphobic are not only being unfair to me, they’re actually putting me in danger because of the level of abuse I’ve received, which included a death threat in 2019 and in the last week has included a series of very scary and frightening messages which have led to a man being arrested and charged with a serious offence. I can’t comment on that too much at the moment. I can’t tell you who the man was, but I can tell you he was a party member.”

Asked about accusations that she is being disloyal by simply talking about these issues, Cherry said she had no choice.

“It's a catch 22 and I don't really know what I'm supposed to do,” she said. “Am I just supposed to shut up and take it for the sake of the party? Ignore the fact that a party member has made serious threats against me, including sexual violence for the sake of the party? Is that what's being suggested?”'

MaudTheInvincible · 10/02/2021 19:21

@BlackForestCake

Promotion to Women’s Officer?
BlackForestCake · 10/02/2021 19:18

Promotion to Women’s Officer?

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 10/02/2021 18:49

What could a likely sentence be for someone making such calls?

SunsetBeetch · 10/02/2021 18:19

@ArabellaScott

From the NS article: 'That night I received a series of sinister and threatening messages on my phone, culminating in a threat of rape. I informed the police and decided to stay away from my home. The next day I learned that the man charged with threatening me is a member of the SNP.'
Wow.
littlbrowndog · 09/02/2021 23:32

Yeah great stuff Joanna 👏👏

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/02/2021 22:23

Great article by Joanna.

ArabellaScott · 09/02/2021 22:19

From the NS article: 'That night I received a series of sinister and threatening messages on my phone, culminating in a threat of rape. I informed the police and decided to stay away from my home. The next day I learned that the man charged with threatening me is a member of the SNP.'

MaudTheInvincible · 09/02/2021 21:06

Joanna Cherry in the New Statesman today

The question – do you believe or have you ever believed that women are adult human females? – is one I must answer in the affirmative, but it’s not a response that is popular with some who have the ear of the leadership.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/scotland/2021/02/joanna-cherry-s-diary-why-i-was-sacked-coming-out-gay-aids-pandemic-and

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 07/02/2021 18:12

Thank you Ig

Igneococcus · 07/02/2021 08:28

Alex Massie has another article in the Times today about Scotland's progressiveness:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f37dc402-67c8-11eb-976c-0f21d6721778?shareToken=eaacfc7b686398356bd21d50e3a8ddca

Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 06/02/2021 21:15

Bit more here on Neale’s views re Self -ID and the conflict with women’s rights.

pinksaltire.com/2019/11/08/women-not-being-heard-as-snp-candidate-defends-his-gra-concerns/

ArabellaScott · 06/02/2021 21:13

'An SNP spokesperson said: “Neale Hanvey was given the opportunity to apologise for his actions, which are incompatible with the responsibilities of a frontbench spokesperson, including the requirement for teamwork and collective responsibility.

“He failed to do so and he has been removed from his position.”'

There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. (Orwell, 1984, in case you can't tell)

Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 06/02/2021 21:04

Looks like he also raised concerns about self-ID weakening safeguarding and so has been labelled a transphobe.

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