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Joanna Cherry (SNP) sacked

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LittleRa · 01/02/2021 14:26

twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1356233346565730304?s=21
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Scout2016 · 03/02/2021 16:51

@Thelnebriati thanks a lot for posting the link to that Twitter discussion. Joanna was brilliant!

highame · 03/02/2021 09:18

@NasaBuns

Good.

The most “on the make” politician I’ve encountered since Tony Blair.

Are you including Nicola in that?
ArabellaScott · 03/02/2021 09:16

Just checking to see if Nicola Sturgeon has managed to record a personal message asking women not to leave the SNP, yet? And to publically support her female MP who has had credible threats and had to find a safe house? No? Nothing?

Lovely. What a peach.

peak2021 · 03/02/2021 07:21

Judging by the support within the SNP Joanna Cherry had in their last internal elections (was it for the executive), a great mistake. The loss of a few votes either to other parties or by not voting in the 2021 Scottish Parliamentary elections could be significant for the SNP. If pro-union parties get a majority of votes (and seats) then any chance of Indy Ref 2 becomes even less than it is now.

Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 02/02/2021 03:12

@NasaBuns

Good.

The most “on the make” politician I’ve encountered since Tony Blair.

In what way? She would earn far more as a QC than she does as an MP
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NasaBuns · 02/02/2021 02:13

Good.

The most “on the make” politician I’ve encountered since Tony Blair.

CharlieParley · 02/02/2021 01:48

@GrinitchSpinach

Does she have a contact address that’s not specifically for constituents, does anyone know? I would like to send a message of support.
If you write to her parliamentary address as an MP, I'm sure her staff will pass it on.
theskyispink · 02/02/2021 01:01

@yestheyhavethesamedad wtf, RS deleted her Twitter again? She's in and out of Twitter like the damn hokey-cokey.

I can honestly see it happening: JC in a safe house with police protection while Sturgeon makes yet another unscripted video condemning the overwhelming torrent of abuse* poor RS and the other fragile wokerati are currently facing.

*a single disagreeing tweet

yestheyhavethesamedad · 02/02/2021 00:02

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g he was bang on about the nec yesterday , no one denied his allegations , just complained they got leaked , spears actually said

"Legal advice is just that advice. We would never have the rights we have now if people never challenged legal advice, tested it or ignored it . The law is a tool used by many to subjugate minorities and maintain the status quo,its ok to challenge it when equality calls for it ."
This was about being told what they were doing breached the equality act . She has since deleted her page no doubt shouting about abuse and am fully expecting sturgeon to comment on it .
No one so far from the snp has condemned the abuse joanna cherry has faced or made reference to the fact the police are involved and she has had to go to a safe house .
Will no longer vote snp , if no independent candidate running will spoil my ballot

GrinitchSpinach · 01/02/2021 23:52

Does she have a contact address that’s not specifically for constituents, does anyone know? I would like to send a message of support.

DiamondHanded · 01/02/2021 23:07

#CherryforFirstMinister

With hopefully her and Wightman starting a better party, one that recognises the equality act. I reckon it would be a quick thing to assemble a political dream team right now!

PersonaNonGarter · 01/02/2021 22:49

Urgh. She’s one of the few ones with some brains.

The SNP MPs and MSPs are in general a bunch of mediocre councillors wildly over promoted on the back of grievance.

It is no surprise that the pandemic is showing them up.

MsFogi · 01/02/2021 22:35

So do we think that MNers can make #CherryForLeader trend?

littlbrowndog · 01/02/2021 22:27

Charlie. Great posts.

But this is our country

I love my country

To see some spiteful careerists doing this to a brave woman tears me up

My country brought to this

CharlieParley · 01/02/2021 21:56

@Babdoc

I’m sorry for Cherry, as I would be for any GC woman being sacked for her views, but as a unionist I am delighted to see the misogynistic SNP tearing itself apart and losing votes. Pity we only have 3 months to the regional assembly election - a little more time for the wheels to come off would have been better!
I'm quite convinced you'll get your wish. The NEC shenanigans plus the machinations agains Joanna Cherry plus the ongoing parliamentary inquiry into how Alec Salmond was framed are hugely upsetting both the membership and SNP voters. There is a large faction of independence voters who seem not to care about corruption and the alleged criminal conduct of the leadership, but that core is not enough to carry the SNP to a resounding majority.

It was polling 62% at this point before the last election, and they're polling around 52% now, so it's entirely possible that this, all of this, will result in fewer seats.

Babdoc · 01/02/2021 21:01

I’m sorry for Cherry, as I would be for any GC woman being sacked for her views, but as a unionist I am delighted to see the misogynistic SNP tearing itself apart and losing votes.
Pity we only have 3 months to the regional assembly election - a little more time for the wheels to come off would have been better!

CharlieParley · 01/02/2021 21:01

@Meredithgrey1

I feel like I came into this story halfway and haven’t been able to find out what she did? Can anyone explain, google isn’t being overly helpful
All the signs point to the First Minister of Scotland being on her last few months as leader of the party. She has proven to be a mediocre leader, and like such leaders are wont to do, she has not supported and trained a talented colleague to take over from her.

Joanna Cherry is the obvious choice for successor, based on her track record, her standing with the membership and her reputation with the wider public (even people who loathe the idea of independence and therefore the SNP seem to respect her skill as a politician, however grudgingly).

One gets the feeling that the FM would rather poke her eyes out with a hot needle than allow that to happen. That she doesn't like Joanna has been quite obvious for years, but just how much she must hate her has only recently become apparent. It seems that the FM has either outright allowed or turned a blind eye to her own party's members and elected representatives to bully, harass and threaten Joanna Cherry and Joan McAlpine, the only two elected politicians and women's rights campaigners in her party who spoke out in defence of our existing legal rights. Because by doing so they oppose her own preferred ideology.

Unfortunately for the FM, they haven't been able to find anything to support the accusations of transphobia and anti-semitism (and they tried hard), so now officially Joanna has just sort of randomly lost her shadow cabinet post in a totally necessary random reshuffle. Not a team player, I think was the insinuation. And the FM will not say a word to rectify the misleading claims by activists that this is both proof of and punishment for transphobia. Or say anything at all to condemn, let alone stop the threats made against Joanna.

theskyispink · 01/02/2021 20:58

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g That seems to be a decent summary of events, from what I've gathered. As to NS "inexplicably" throwing her hat in with the TRAs, I think it's pure distraction. NS isn't stupid, though right now her behaviour is indicating otherwise - she must have known the fuss this would cause.

This is an act of desperation and spite.

SophocIestheFox · 01/02/2021 20:54

Fucking hell, what a shitshow.

I’m not a supporter, and honestly have no time for them, but they’re tearing apart my country and we all need for them to sort themselves out NOW, and stop shedding the few talented people (women) they have left. The power vacuum is terrifying- it’s not like there’s any coherent opposition.

Identity politics poisons everything. It’s like a political Midas touch that turns everything to shit Sad

Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 01/02/2021 20:53

It’s horrific to read that Joanna has received death threats. We’ve already had one female MP murdered in recent years Sad

Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 01/02/2021 20:51

Sorry, you already said that about one of the women getting the date wrong. Staggering that the case went to court given that.

Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 01/02/2021 20:51

Ex-ambassador Craig Murray says the media utterly failed to report most of the defence evidence, which is odd if true, as by his account it was devastating to the prosecution's case - cast iron evidence that some of his accusers couldn't have been where they said they were at the time of the alleged incidents, etc.

He’s right though. I was following it at the time and the allegations were repeated in lurid detail but the defence - including that one of the women was not there on the date she claimed - was given very little prominence.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 01/02/2021 20:40

Absolutely party

No one in their right mind would say that about ANYTHING else!