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Joanna Cherry (SNP) sacked

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LittleRa · 01/02/2021 14:26

twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1356233346565730304?s=21
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Greenflygatherer · 16/04/2021 20:40

No problem Chattylion, I hope she is ok!

There's a part in there about her having met him and also being consulted about this, wtf.

ChattyLion · 16/04/2021 20:35

Oh thank you Greenfly
My fault, didn’t read thread properly. Last I heard she was stepping back a bit for personal reasons- I thought some shitweasel had somehow managed to get her sacked as an MSP or something in her absence. Very glad that’s not the case! Smile

Greenflygatherer · 16/04/2021 20:34

Not surprised if your watched Nicola's guardian video, she has very influential friends, who probably agree with this creep.

ArabellaScott · 16/04/2021 20:33

And Cherry has said that Nicola Sturgeon has not once contacted her to offer support.

Greenflygatherer · 16/04/2021 20:28

To quote from the daily record article: "Defence agent Simon Collins told the hearing that his client had been diagnosed with a psychological disorder and found it “difficult to appreciate the emotions of others”.

Mr Collins said Ms Cherry would meet very large number of people due to her role, and Karte may have gained the impression there was a “two-way connection”."

Sorry what connection would that be?

That she gave him the impression she would like to be threatened with rape and murder?

Greenflygatherer · 16/04/2021 20:14

Sorry ChattyLion, this is an old thread but I thought I'd add this here as an update to that original tweet.

She was sacked from the front bench at the start of February, despite being the best thing the SNP has going for them, because she stands up for women's sex based rights.

Think it was after this video where NS says TWAW no questions,

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/28/sturgeon-transphobia-tweet-prompts-calls-to-push-through-legislation

Reading this article today made me so angry.

ChattyLion · 16/04/2021 20:07

Oh no she was a brilliant politician.. what is going on?

Greenflygatherer · 16/04/2021 20:06

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sheriff-calls-psychiatric-report-snp-23926011.amp

So it looks like someone is trying to get him off..... what's that another violent male getting a slap on the wrists (if that)?

FindTheTruth · 14/03/2021 17:44

She's been quoted a lot in the Sunday papers. love the voice reason shining through

MissBarbary · 12/03/2021 21:14

Have any of the SNP high heid yins said anything supportive of Cherry about this?

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 12/03/2021 21:04

(A few) More details here mobile.twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1370468862077116419

Joanna Flowers

MaudTheInvincible · 12/03/2021 20:13

@MaudTheInvincible

The name of the SNP member who sent the treat to JC which caused her to need police advice has been published on Twitter by an account called Bridges for Indy.
JC has tweeted that the guy who threatened her was in court today. twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1370436720739647488?s=20

Creep.

Cailleach1 · 22/02/2021 10:11

Well a phrase by Mary Wollstonecraft comes to mind. Paraphrasing - it appears to me that Kirsty Blackman's doesn't have a very ambitious view of the fruits of female emancipation. Her (or him/they, don't want to misgender) is fairly limited and limiting. It appears to me she/he/they/furrybeastie thinks the great leap is that we get the enormous freedom to decorate ourselves and our cages how we want. We can wear jeans OR skirts and put up blue curtains (not just pink). Such freedoms make me dizzy! Their vision of smashing the patriarchy bring a tear to my eye.

I particularly love the bit where adults of the future can marry a man, they can marry a woman OR they can marry someone who is non binary.

StrangeTunes · 21/02/2021 23:48

I’ve read that Kirsty Blackman piece twice and I just can’t compute. Clothes and how we dress - that’s what it all comes down to. The choice to wear skirts and heels or slob around in jeans - that’s the grand prize of Feminism? And it’s the clothes and dress itself so people who aren’t women can dress ‘as’ women and ‘be’ women. And how marvellous this is. Gender non-conforming turns into sex non-conforming - swap the words sex and gender around so much it becomes a slight of hand and while you’re being deliberately distracted, whoosh, your Rights have disappeared.

It’s like at the very precise point in her argument where there should be understanding, it just slips through her fingers and a completely illogical conclusion is reached instead. You don’t have to be constrained like my 90 year old Granny in her twin-set and pearls world - anyone can now be a woman and live in harmony. Or something like that. The main conclusion seems to be ‘aren’t I a lovely person and don’t we live in a fantastic world where you can dress how you like, and declare yourself any sex you want.

MissBarbary · 21/02/2021 22:45

I'm blocked by Paisley despite having never tweeted anything ever let alone interacted with him. I see when I log out he's suggesting Brodies are "lawyering wrong"

I can't be bothered explaining why he is wrong but he is wrong.

Cherry did her traineeship with Brodies. Brodies is (are?) one of the top legal firms in Scotland.

MissBarbary · 21/02/2021 22:28

@BlackForestCake

Why did Salmond’s many political enemies never bring his allegedly well-known sexpestiness up while he was first minister?
Because "freedom" and he was the big man who was going to deliver it.

He failed abysmally. I actually felt sorry, briefly, for Sturgeon on the morning after when he went into hiding and left her to face the press.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/02/2021 22:20

know how hard won this was. That's why when we hear 'Gender Critical' individuals talking about 'proper women' or 'real women' I am gravely worried. Policing what women wear or what they look like is drawn directly from the 1950s my Granny finished school in.

This is an idiotic take.

littlbrowndog · 21/02/2021 22:13

Jeez she gets paid for this 💃💃😂😂😂

Total,fud

FacetiousCuntychops · 21/02/2021 21:34

Kirsty has tweeted about this article and the comments I can see agree with you Blackforestcake. Someone has sent her JKR's statement too. I also found it a confusing piece.

I couldn't give a fuck how anyone dresses. But there has to be protections for women including refuges, prisons and sport.

mobile.twitter.com/KirstySNP/status/1363560368430145538?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

David Paisley has the letter on his Twitter page and his twitter's supporters seem to have it in for the law firm too.

BlackForestCake · 21/02/2021 21:23

As for Blackman's article, either she doesn't understand the GC position or she is deliberately misrepresenting it.

BlackForestCake · 21/02/2021 21:22

Cherry denies the story, says she has not taken legal action.

It is hotting up in the SNP. Cherry, Kenny McAskill and Chris McEleny will probably be expelled.

lionheart · 21/02/2021 21:01

This too. Kirsty Blackman has spoken.

www.theblether.scot/modern-feminism

"I am a woman, I live as a woman, and I dress however I like.

I know how hard won this was. That's why when we hear 'Gender Critical' individuals talking about 'proper women' or 'real women' I am gravely worried. Policing what women wear or what they look like is drawn directly from the 1950s my Granny finished school in.

Absolutely, biology is real, but it is not possible to tell what chromosomes or genitals someone has by looking at them. I do not believe there should be restrictions on how to 'woman'."

FacetiousCuntychops · 21/02/2021 19:13

Rather than start a new thread, I believe this is relevant to this thread.

David Paisley (Scottish actor) has called Joanna a transphobe I believe and she has taken action.

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/joanna-cherry-takes-legal-action-against-actor-in-disproportionate-move-3141696?amp

mobile.twitter.com/DavidPaisley/status/1363528618593370114

Thank you again Joanna for literally standing up and saying enough of this actual literal batshitness.

MaudTheInvincible · 12/02/2021 21:51

Agree, it must be so stressful and upsetting. My VAWG consultation submission had a bit in it about the aggressive and threatening atmosphere towards women taking part in public discourse as a means of keeping us out of it by making us too frightened to participate fully. It's disgusting.

jj1968 · 12/02/2021 21:49

@ThatIsNotMyUsername

Is that allowed - people have got into trouble for retweeting ‘named names’. I’m very curious though!
If he's been arrested and charged then anyone claiming he is guilty or revealing information about previous convictions could be in contempt of court and more importantly it could fuck up the prosecution.
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