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Innocent drinks

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Biscuitsanddoombar · 29/01/2021 14:20

So another brand proves that they’re not keen on women having thoughts

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HermioneWeasley · 30/01/2021 12:51

Another one for the boycott list. It’ll be better for me and the kids are they are just a bottle of sugar.

StellaAndCrow · 30/01/2021 12:44

Yes, and when I checked creepy man's followers, I found I was already blocked by most of them (who obvs I'd never interacted with so assume blocker list).

ArabellaScott · 30/01/2021 12:33

@OvaHere

Innocent drinks follow 31.2k people. I wonder how long 'leftie rage' had to search to find someone amongst their followers who had committed this particular sort of wrongthink?

Who takes notice of who smoothie companies are following?

I expect it will be the reverse. This bloke will have been checking the followers of said 74 year old woman to see whom he could pick off and bully. Not at all creepy, no siree.
TheCoolNightAirLikeShalimar2 · 30/01/2021 12:08

Do we have a list of misogynistic companies?

Cailleach1 · 30/01/2021 11:46

Oh, Method not going in my trolley either. Wasn't aware of them being alleged misogyny cheerleaders either. Liked the grapefruit hand wash. Over with.

Cailleach1 · 30/01/2021 11:33

Won't be buying anymore of their goods in my family shop. A youngster in my family particularly liked their stuff. Thanks for showing yourself @innocent. Why do they seem to agree that the safety, privacy and dignity of women and girls is a bad thing? Or appear to support bullies or those who want to trample on women and girls? Misogyny is it, eh?

On the other hand, nice to discover @Flashmaggie.

BraveBananaBadge · 30/01/2021 11:04

Yes Errol surely the best outcome would be for the chief exec to come out a la Andrew Neill after the Spectator/ Co-Op thing, acknowledge the social media overreach, even challenge the idea a follow equals an endorsement. For a company that has always excelled at this kind of marketing and basked in the high profile it’s brought them, you’d think senior management would be horrified at this kind of bad press. Won’t hold my breath though.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/01/2021 10:52

For a start, how is her age relevant? Seems he's dismissing her on the basis of a 74 year old being unimportant. Which is pretty inhumane.

Pure ageism. The arrogance of someone younger not realising older people may have more life experience and time to think about things.

What I'm mildly curious about is that someone in that company did follow Margaret Nelson in the first place. I really do hope that somewhere behind the scenes that someone is explaining to their colleague why women's rights and free speech matter too.

MusicalTrifleMonkey · 30/01/2021 10:38

The fact that they advertise their drinks as healthy is insane.
They are insanely unhealthy, no fibre to help breakdown the fruit juice and loaded with sugar. Awful stuff.

Beamur · 30/01/2021 10:10

Personally I'm disinclined to give business to companies that bully women. Shame really as DD enjoys the odd innocent smoothie.
Although the fact that they are now owned by coca cola gives me further pause. Has anyone read Mark Thomas's book about their business practices? Might make you not want to buy any of their stuff ever again.

TheCoolNightAirLikeShalimar2 · 30/01/2021 10:03

Are there any big companies that don't have a Twitter account?

Clever them.

MichelleofzeResistance · 30/01/2021 09:37

They have jumped at the behest of one man who has posted misogynistic content and has 10 followers, opening the floodgates for other people to also make demands about who they associate with, and also endorsing the completely incorrect statement

Precisely this.

What on earth is the point of playing the wittering 'please stroke us' game? It's childish and petty, it's not something grown ups should be stooping to. And I've got no time or interest in any company stupid enough to wander into this kind of game playing and casual misogyny for political point scoring.

Thanks for the insight into your company Innocent, have a lovely life.

How thick do you have to be as a manufacturer to dabble about in this kind of political mud? Any position taken immediately alienates some of your custom, when your survival is based (hello, pandemic, recession? Brexit?) on making every single sale you can. And the ease with which they happily turned on women isn't something they can now brush out of their public reputation and history. Muppets.

ArabellaScott · 30/01/2021 09:02

@Bloodyhamabeads

I thought this was an interesting comment from the guy who originally tweeted Innocent...classic abuser tactic. Is there a name for this?

I can’t articulate very well what I mean, but it reminds me of when two siblings are fighting and one retaliates and the child that instigated it says ‘you’re overreacting, it’s not that bad’.

For a start, how is her age relevant? Seems he's dismissing her on the basis of a 74 year old being unimportant. Which is pretty inhumane. And then, yes, he's thought it important that Innocent shouldn't follow a particular person, sent them a vaguely threatening tweet 'you wouldnt want us to think you were associating with someone like that, would you?' - then minimises and ridicules anyone who thinks it matters that innocent have caved to his bullying and done as he told them to. I don't know if there's a name for it but bullying it is, for sure.
Usermn78 · 30/01/2021 09:00

Well unfortunately for them, the patriarchy means a lot of women do the food shop. Shan't be buying from them again!

Edenember · 30/01/2021 08:57

This is the issue... They have jumped at the behest of one man who has posted misogynistic content and has 10 followers, opening the floodgates for other people to also make demands about who they associate with, and also endorsing the completely incorrect statement that Maggie is transphobic... but they seem to be selective about who they listen and respond to... and so far it remains the one man and not the hundreds of women... a truly dreadful move when women largely hold the family purse strings. They’ve got themselves into a right pickle.

BraveBananaBadge · 30/01/2021 08:37

When I looked last night they hadn’t replied to a single person asking about this but were still happily bollocking on with cutesy replies to anyone engaging with them about their products. Isn’t that what the kids call “doubling down” 😂?

If they can cause a storm like this then refuse to address the issue (whatever the supposed wrongthink), in effect dismissing the concerns of hundreds of people politely asking for clarification, they deserve the boycotts. Be interesting to see if they give this any further thought.

rabbitwoman · 30/01/2021 07:07

I am having a wonderful fantasy this morning that flash Maggie gets a huge delivery of complimentary Innocent smoothies and they prove to be the masters of PR after all......

Whatsnewpussyhat · 30/01/2021 03:07

Unfortunately I can't see coca-cola giving a shit.

MissBarbary · 30/01/2021 02:02

@VampireTheBuffetSlayer

I won't go into details because it's too long but Innocent once ran an advert that was misleading and a few of us wrote to them to point out why. They pulled the ad. I think this is one brand we might be able to win over with people power and gentle persuasion. It might put them on the fence but worth contacting them with your thoughts.
Why bother ? There are plenty of other smoothie makers- likely cheaper, less sugar laden and not owned by Coca-Cola.

Innocent had it's chance- they could have just ignored the little twerp- they didn't and they blew it.

felineflutter · 30/01/2021 01:06

I see this all the time when trying to moderate items it is sometimes impossible not to do the wrong thing due to pathways of reporting possible hate speech etc and unfortunately women's voices are squashed.

VampireTheBuffetSlayer · 30/01/2021 00:50

I won't go into details because it's too long but Innocent once ran an advert that was misleading and a few of us wrote to them to point out why. They pulled the ad. I think this is one brand we might be able to win over with people power and gentle persuasion. It might put them on the fence but worth contacting them with your thoughts.

MissBarbary · 30/01/2021 00:14

@AbsintheFriends

Method? What did they do?

methodproducts.co.uk/drag-cleans/

Considering the vast majority of their customer base and, let's face it, the people who are stuck with the shitwork of cleaning, are women, it seems ill-judged (at best) to choose men dressed up as hyper-sexualised parodies of women while doing a bit of performance housework to sell their products.

I really can't get worked up about the Method ad. If anything it's amusing more than anything - the idea of doing cleaning all glammed up like that. I also don't think they look hyper- sexualised- it's so OTT it isn't sexual. I expect to be told I'm missing the point but that ad doesn't bother me at all. I hadn't heard of Method and there's a couple of products I like the look of.
Bloodyhamabeads · 30/01/2021 00:06

I thought this was an interesting comment from the guy who originally tweeted Innocent...classic abuser tactic. Is there a name for this?

I can’t articulate very well what I mean, but it reminds me of when two siblings are fighting and one retaliates and the child that instigated it says ‘you’re overreacting, it’s not that bad’.

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AbsintheFriends · 29/01/2021 23:56

Method? What did they do?

methodproducts.co.uk/drag-cleans/

Considering the vast majority of their customer base and, let's face it, the people who are stuck with the shitwork of cleaning, are women, it seems ill-judged (at best) to choose men dressed up as hyper-sexualised parodies of women while doing a bit of performance housework to sell their products.

ellyeth · 29/01/2021 23:49

Innocent was originally started, I think, by a couple of entrepreneurs. I can remember them visiting our work restaurant in a central London solicitors firm about 25 years ago to market their product. I believe Innocent was sold to Coca Cola a few years ago.

I don't know if it is still the case but, although the drinks were marketed as being healthy, they contained large amount of sugar.