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Nicola Sturgeon throws Joanna Cherry under the bus

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Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 27/01/2021 21:05

twitter.com/nicolasturgeon/status/1354521063502336001?s=21

Personal statement condemning transphobia in response to the number of young members leaving and giving this as their reason.

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Selkiesarereal · 28/01/2021 22:56

I’m so glad it’s not just me, I’m absolutely spitting. Honestly if a person watching had no idea of the issue you’d have sympathy for poor Teddy.

OvaHere · 28/01/2021 22:52

I recall from previous threads that Teddy was allegedly lying about that. Someone else will probably remember the full story. I think ForWomenScot covered it on their Twitter account.

Treeballarae · 28/01/2021 22:50

Yes I just watched the Scottish news and came on here to see if anyone else thought it was a biased as I did, I felt they gave no real explanation of what had sparked NS to make her video and it was all about how poor Teddy had to leave the party because of the nasty transphobia

Selkiesarereal · 28/01/2021 22:46

Has anyone just watched bbc Scotland news tonight reporting on this issue? Absolutely appalling as it covered a personal account from someone called Teddy, didn’t catch what gender they identified as but clearly supportive of trans rights but no personal account from a woman, such biased reporting. It was so bad that even my dh commented on it.

WouldBeGood · 28/01/2021 22:36

@derxa me too

howonearthdidwegethere · 28/01/2021 22:35

Why do people think Sturgeon is a feminist? Because she says she is?

Genuinely curious. Because I see no evidence to back up this claim.

derxa · 28/01/2021 22:18

[quote WouldBeGood]This, where they’ve used an expert who compared TW in female spaces to women who’ve had mastectomies has really sealed my disgust for them all

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5149172/snp-breast-cancer-patients-id-row-mastectomies/[/quote]
Words fail me Sad

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/01/2021 22:09

YY that was appalling. Lots of our FWR posts quoted in that piece. I am the only poster whose name isn't blanked out though Shock

WouldBeGood · 28/01/2021 21:57

This, where they’ve used an expert who compared TW in female spaces to women who’ve had mastectomies has really sealed my disgust for them all

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5149172/snp-breast-cancer-patients-id-row-mastectomies/

Calyx72 · 28/01/2021 21:25

Sorry pressed post too soon. Meant to say "hmmmmm". I don't believe NS means to address the concern that abusive men will exploit trans rights.

I also don't believe she wants independence any time soon. It's a shame, I used to be a fan.

Justhadathought · 28/01/2021 21:20

Goodness knows who I can vote for in May

Spoil your ballot like many of us now do...unless you can genuinely vote with some positivity for another candidate.

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Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails · 28/01/2021 21:20

@yestheyhavethesamedad

It was actually worse that , a lot that left , did so before humzas amendment , they left because the snp were bullied into voting for johan lamonts medical examiner bill , that gave rape victims the right to choose the sex of their examiner. The ones that left then , that included mridhul left telling rape victims they were bigots and transphobes and many joined the greens because they were more inclusive .
I thought this was as low as it could get - demanding that rape victims accept being examined by a person with a penis to satisfy an ideology - but I was wrong Sad
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yestheyhavethesamedad · 28/01/2021 20:58

It was actually worse that , a lot that left , did so before humzas amendment , they left because the snp were bullied into voting for johan lamonts medical examiner bill , that gave rape victims the right to choose the sex of their examiner.
The ones that left then , that included mridhul left telling rape victims they were bigots and transphobes and many joined the greens because they were more inclusive .

derxa · 28/01/2021 20:22

@Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse

NS would throw anyone under the bus to get what she wants. Disgusting vile women.
I'm not sure that she's vile but the first part is true. She's very clever and articulate and has got her 'I'm better than Boris' message across. Her Twitter message was fine. Who wants trans people to be abused. But it was virtue signalling to young Scottish voters. Who cares if women are worried about women's rights. That's not trendy at all. Us very untrendy rural folk out here mainly can't stand her according to my very scientifically carried out opinion poll my conversations in the local shop
littlbrowndog · 28/01/2021 16:44

Interesting from the wings blog

Wbeezer · 28/01/2021 16:09

I read a lot of the comments, interesting but I actually think that perhaps the most likely explanation is one of the simplest, that she was sooking up to the Greens to ensure they vote with her to get the budget passed.

Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse · 28/01/2021 15:50

NS would throw anyone under the bus to get what she wants. Disgusting vile women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/01/2021 15:47

My beef with it all is from the GC feminist viewpoint, but I’m fascinated by the machinations that have been going on and the attempts to obfuscate.

Same here!

Rosa2021 · 28/01/2021 15:23

Thank you for all your explanations, I suppose every time you tweet you have to imagine what it would like out of context. Glad I just lurk!

WouldBeGood · 28/01/2021 15:19

It did upset me nonetheless. Just so fed up of women being thrown under a bus for any old reason

BlackForestCake · 28/01/2021 15:18

It's clear now, if it wasn’t originally, why all sorts of wokies were and are so keen to shut down Wings (and Craig Murray). And it’s not because he was abrasive and swore a lot.

WouldBeGood · 28/01/2021 15:18

Yes, I’m following the debate/spat on Twitter.

My beef with it all is from the GC feminist viewpoint, but I’m fascinated by the machinations that have been going on and the attempts to obfuscate.

ArabellaScott · 28/01/2021 15:12

Highly recommend reading that Wings article above, Wouldbe. It really does shed a lot of light on the matter.

'transphobia' is a dead cat thrown onto the table. It's a speech designed to be upsetting and cause uproar.

WouldBeGood · 28/01/2021 15:10

@Whatdoyoudowhendemocracyfails

“I mean, NS doesn't really give much of a fuck about nonbinary rights, let's not kid ourselves. NS wants independence”

I’m becoming persuaded by the arguments from commentators like Craig Murray and Wings that Nicola Sturgeon actually doesn’t want independence - and that this is the issue at the heart of the war on Alex Salmon and Cherry, who is aligned with Salmond and is backing the current legal hearing to establish whether a S30 order is the only route to a legitimate referendum.

I’d much rather see Cherry in charge of the party.

I think this is the root of it all.

It’s good old faction fighting, like in the days of the Tudor court.

I’m not an SNP supporter but I do rate Joanna Cherry and her constant support of women. I was really upset last night by that video. And angry. No such outcry for abused women. It’s despicable.

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