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Dear Owen Jones, we are not frightened of transgender people, we are frightened of men.

293 replies

dearoj · 25/01/2021 14:49

There you go, fixed that for you.

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TheCoolNightAirLikeShalimar2 · 27/01/2021 09:29

We can't call OJ a cult?

Deliriumoftheendless · 27/01/2021 09:26

I’m backing out of this custard debate now, it’s just all too toxic.

What we need is more light, less heat on this (because then the trifle will melt and curdle).

Winesalot · 27/01/2021 09:21

My mother thinks jelly in trifle.is 'common'.

Er! Jelly is very necessary. Fruit is horrid.

Besides I want to bounce on the jelly between the sponge cake pontoons to get across the pool.

Jetatyeovilaerodrome · 27/01/2021 08:58

Does OJ just have absolutely no idea how it looks when he writes a massive rant and then blocks replies? He is starting to sound desperate and unhinged.

Janice Turner (who doesn't block replies, as doesn't JKR) just seems so classy and calm in comparison.

socialworker222 · 27/01/2021 08:27

what about trifle?
Can't believe someone brought jelly into this toxic debate.
My mother thinks jelly in trifle.is 'common'. OJ wouldn't like that

Floisme · 27/01/2021 08:15

Spare a thought for Owen Jones: weaned, I imagine, on tales of working class and civil rights heroes, dreaming of leading his own struggle when he's grown up. And then he thinks he's found one, only to realise he has to deny science and sound more like Jolyon Maugham with every passing day.

Igneococcus · 27/01/2021 06:57

He is just so completely outgunned, intellectually.

MaudTheInvincible · 27/01/2021 00:44

She's absolutely spot on

Dear Owen Jones, we are not frightened of transgender people, we are frightened of men.
WarOnWomen · 26/01/2021 23:57

Oh I love Janice Turner's response to LOJ tweets. Go Janice 👏🏻👏🏻💕👏🏻👏🏻

mobile.twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1354116694009147396

merrymouse · 26/01/2021 23:23

The irony is that AIDS devastated particular groups of people regardless of whether they ‘identified’ with the group.

There are still restrictions on giving blood for men who have recently had sex with another man in the last 3 months.

MaudTheInvincible · 26/01/2021 23:21

Also, I now have some Rachel's rice pudding in my fridge as a direct result of this thread, and I'm going to try those custard tarts from Lidl as soon as I can.

ArabellaScott · 26/01/2021 23:21

Round of applause for JM.

MaudTheInvincible · 26/01/2021 23:19

Ah, that's lovely Grin

Floisme · 26/01/2021 23:05

Ladies (and gentlemen): Dame Jenni Murray:

'Well done Janice. Keep it up. I’m with you. And Owen I do hope Kier is well and your male Burmese will one day meet my female. Both clear about sex, not gender.'

https://mobile.twitter.com/whjm/status/1354193398962544642

dyslek · 26/01/2021 22:07

Limbering up for the 2021 Trifle Trials...

hoteltango · 26/01/2021 22:06

I wish I knew how to save gifs off the internet. This one is fun:

twitter.com/kleephotography/status/1354123178713505792

MrsWooster · 26/01/2021 21:58

Mumsnet Massive.

Dear Owen Jones, we are not frightened of transgender people, we are frightened of men.
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 26/01/2021 21:33

@dyslek

My mum and dad were sort of hippies and had friends who were in to the Bagwan, the orange people we used to call them.

I still have some unpleasent memories of an afternoon spent at one of their 'meditation' sessions [shudders even more]

That sounds dreadful 😳 like one of those time share things or MLM where they get really arsey and complain you are wasting their time

Ive got a lovely friend who keeps trying to get me to go to bible study...not gonna happen 😀

TyroTerf · 26/01/2021 21:29

Would you have to purchase a trifle-proof swimming costume I wonder?

Make it a sparkly leotard and I would pay well into double figures to see Tinsel's Trifle Trials. It'd be one of those experiences that make you smile when you're on your deathbed.

Nomnomarrgh · 26/01/2021 20:44

Happy memories of when I tried to look up sects and cults in the library. Why did I not ask a librarian?

dyslek · 26/01/2021 20:08

My mum and dad were sort of hippies and had friends who were in to the Bagwan, the orange people we used to call them.

I still have some unpleasent memories of an afternoon spent at one of their 'meditation' sessions [shudders even more]

GrandmaMazur · 26/01/2021 20:07

Wow, my earlier message was deleted quickly. The watchers must be busy today

dyslek · 26/01/2021 20:06

The place in Tottenham Crt Rd? that was a bit risky, not sure Id have the guts to go in. Id worry they wont let you out again till you agreed to marry TomCruse. [shudders]

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 26/01/2021 19:59

what if someone starts a thread about 'my life in Scientology'?

I once went to one of their meetings...you know when they stop you in the street and ask leading questions

Got a book and everything..l

ArabellaScott · 26/01/2021 19:58

dyslek, as I understand it it's only certain specific groups we are not permitted to question the dynamics of. You can probably guess which ones.