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Dear Owen Jones, we are not frightened of transgender people, we are frightened of men.

293 replies

dearoj · 25/01/2021 14:49

There you go, fixed that for you.

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merrymouse · 25/01/2021 18:24

M-u-m-s-n-e-t

Maybe there is a hidden word in the name that explains this cult like insistence that sex has consequences and women need rights.

‘Ums’? ‘Snet’?

AbsintheFriends · 25/01/2021 18:22

I saw Little OJ's tweets about It's A Sin and who's allowed to watch/enjoy/comment.

He's doing that thing stroppy teenagers do of wanting exclusive ownership of the stuff he likes. 'I liked this first, it's mine - you can't like it!'

A girl in my form did it with Eurythmics circa 1983. She was a fan first, none of the rest of us were allowed to like them. It was irritating in a 13 year old. In a fully grown journalist and media commentator it's hilariously embarrassing. (Maybe he's going to start a fan club with badges and secret passwords and everything. No girls allowed.)

CranberriesChoccyAgain · 25/01/2021 18:20

@gardenbird48

Ditto. The old-school ones seem to grasp that a man cannot physically become a woman, but still want to live their life in a way that makes them most happy.

The people (as you say TRAs and handmaidens) who can't define woman and are unable to face biological reality are more of a concern. Women's rights are acceptable collateral damage in their eyes.

boatyardblues · 25/01/2021 18:19

@Caaarrrl

boatyard your dad obviously watched watched the government public safety films that we had to watch before every school holiday

Some of them were terrifying.

You’re probably right. In hindsight I can see he was quite anxious about us coming to harm playing on our friend’s farm. I managed to cut my inner wrist open on a barbed wire fence leaping off a tractor trailer aged four, so he had cause. 😄
gardenbird48 · 25/01/2021 18:14

@Toseland

I wasn’t scared of Trans people but now I’ve seen what their activists are like I think it’s right to be wary. I don’t think that’s phobic?
I still have very little issue with the old-school transsexuals, if any. I used to work in the same office as such a person, they were quite grumpy and wouldn't speak to me for some reason but otherwise fine. The toilet consideration was never discussed (it was quite a big office building) and I had no knowledge of what the arrangements were - which was ideal.

It's the activists and the shouty people and those who have 'chosen not to transition their appearance' (yet still demand to use the female facilities - why?) and the part-timers and the vociferous but totally blinkered female supporters that have got me worried though.

PlantMam · 25/01/2021 18:12

I’ve never flown a kite near a pylon, so those films must’ve been effective.

Biscuitsanddoombar · 25/01/2021 18:11

I am the spirit of dark & lonely custard?

TodgerStrunk · 25/01/2021 18:07

@Caaarrrl

boatyard your dad obviously watched watched the government public safety films that we had to watch before every school holiday

Some of them were terrifying.

Yeah but I don't remember any of them mentioning Waitrose custard Grin
Caaarrrl · 25/01/2021 18:01

boatyard your dad obviously watched watched the government public safety films that we had to watch before every school holiday

Some of them were terrifying.

HecatesCats · 25/01/2021 17:46

I’m on hold to the Chief Exec of Waitrose right now - BRB!

GrinGrinGrin

dyslek · 25/01/2021 17:45

@PlantMam

Does the cult have egg custard tarts?

I might join for one (or 4) of those.

Which reminds me, has anyone had their right wing Christian bonus bucks through yet?

If only, I'm brassic right now.
zanahoria · 25/01/2021 17:45

Mumsnet is a cult?

Has Justine brainwashed us all?

when do we move into the commune?

boatyardblues · 25/01/2021 17:41

@MrsWooster

Family I am prepared to die trying to run across a swimming pool of Waitrose Madagascan vanilla custard. Let me know where when etc. Kind regards, MrsW
I’d rather drown in Waitrose vanilla custard than a slurry pit, my father’s oft repeated childhood cautionary tale against playing at the nearby dairy farm. I imagine the consistency and risk level as being quite similar. (Sorry not sorry for making that association in our more sensitive readers’ minds.)
PlantMam · 25/01/2021 17:41

Does the cult have egg custard tarts?

I might join for one (or 4) of those.

Which reminds me, has anyone had their right wing Christian bonus bucks through yet?

FamilyOfAliens · 25/01/2021 17:41

@MrsWooster

Family I am prepared to die trying to run across a swimming pool of Waitrose Madagascan vanilla custard. Let me know where when etc. Kind regards, MrsW
I’m on hold to the Chief Exec of Waitrose right now - BRB!
Resistthethoughtpolice · 25/01/2021 17:39

When will women just do what they're told? Come on now, don't worry your pretty little heads about it all. We've got a man to tell us what we should be thinking and feeling. That's always been reliable up to now hasn't it?

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/01/2021 17:39

Derail

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/01/2021 17:39

Also not even slightly sorry about the detail 😂

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/01/2021 17:38

@ArabellaScott

oobleck, beg your pardon!
Yes it’s the cornstarch (as has been pointed out how thread) but it’s still custard!

Evidence below

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz9KnPZWOgs

MechantGourmet · 25/01/2021 17:37

I would have thought that all women on twitter had switched off DMs?

MurderOffTheDancefloor · 25/01/2021 17:36

Oh, Little Owen, I wish someone had told you what a cult is. If this were one, it would be the shittest one ever - you can debate, there is no way to have or not have membership, and there are no men trying to shag or own you.

Owen Jones used to upset and frustrate me. Now I find him hilarious. Thanks for the laughs, LOJ.

dyslek · 25/01/2021 17:34

@HecatesCats

Major fomo on missing out on the cult DMs. Is there a newsletter?
I knew you lot were all having a good time, and not inviting me Sad

Who's the cult leader? Maybe I could ask them directly to join?

MrsWooster · 25/01/2021 17:31

Family I am prepared to die trying to run across a swimming pool of Waitrose Madagascan vanilla custard. Let me know where when etc. Kind regards, MrsW

HecatesCats · 25/01/2021 17:31

Major fomo on missing out on the cult DMs. Is there a newsletter?

dyslek · 25/01/2021 17:30

The custurdphobia on this thread is disturbing Sad

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