A war of words is beginning to wipe women out of existence, Janice Turner in the Times

Excellent article, so clearly and eloquently covers all the issues. And even though I am already aware and angry about all of these points, seeing them laid out so starkly gives me renewed anger.

I phoned up The Times to complain that it seems to be mostly garbage these days and said the only reason I keep my subscription is because they have Janice Turner writing for them and her articles are consistently brilliant. They did give me half price on my subscription for six months as well which was a result! This article I feel justifies my decision, excellent essay and beautifully written.

For important articles, where someone provides a share token if you put them into an Internet archive it preserves the entire text which will be available in the future for anyone given the link:

Thank you!

It’s something that The Times is allowing comments at all. Note the loudest dissenting voice among them clearly hasn’t understood a word (while maintaining male-bodied rapists in women’s prisons is something that has never happened)

That’s it. I’m subscribing to the Times because of Janice Turner’s consistently brilliant reporting on this. Deserves to be rewarded.

In addition to sending thanks to Janice Turner, it's worth writing briefly to the editor of the paper ([email protected]) to say that it's The Times willingness to cover this issue, including the terrific contributions by Janice Turner, that means you've subscribed or will be continuing your subscription.

For important articles, where someone provides a share token if you put them into an Internet archive it preserves the entire text which will be available in the future for anyone given the link:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210123102936/www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ca340930-5cce-11eb-86f4-4fa0aa4e7fd3?shareToken=6d222a1920558b72d808106a45bec27f" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210123102936/www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ca340930-5cce-11eb-86f4-4fa0aa4e7fd3?shareToken=6d222a1920558b72d808106a45bec27f

Or you can probably just c&p the link from the top of the thread though sometimes they're time limited so a fresh one may be better.

OP has provided a fresh link this morning

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ca340930-5cce-11eb-86f4-4fa0aa4e7fd3?shareToken=6d222a1920558b72d808106a45bec27f

Janice might be someone who deserves a thank you card for continuing to write about these issues.

I agree. This truly is an excellent article.

So if I email this article to my woke daughter in the hope she will read it by using the icon can recipients of the email open the full article? I'm on my phone and it doesn't have an envelope icon, just the usual forward one on the top right.

If you use the Forward icon, the choices should include email but may also have a Copy option which gives a sharetoken link you can copy anywhere. That's what I get on the iPad app nowadays. Or you can probably just c&p the link from the top of the thread though sometimes they're time limited so a fresh one may be better.

And if you’re a student it’s something like £2 a month.

Wow what an amazing article. I just shared some of the highlights with my DH. He was gobsmacked. What makes me sad is I couldn’t share this on any social media in Australia as I would be abused and trolled endlessly.

I came here from a forum in Australia which has banned any discussion of gender critical feminism. Yet a recent post celebrating the movement to they/them pronouns by the new US government is being celebrated in an echo chamber of mandated opinion.

Thanks boatyard
I'll have to make the effort of revving up the old laptop and see if it works that way. (:

I assume the forward button sends the link to the paywalled article, so she won’t be able to read it even if she wants to Fanny.

@boatyardblues

The article is in the comments section of the Times. You can make a sharetoken by clicking on the envelope at the top of the article. It creates a draft email with the html link in it. You can then C&P the link.""

So if I email this article to my woke daughter in the hope she will read it by using the icon can recipients of the email open the full article? I'm on my phone and it doesn't have an envelope icon, just the usual forward one on the top right.

That’s it. I’m subscribing to the Times because of Janice Turner’s consistently brilliant reporting on this. Deserves to be rewarded.

thankyou for sharing OP

...abracadabra, now that comment too has disappeared!

There's one comment showing now, just a thank you to Janice. Maybe anything more than that won't get through for a while.

This article is amazing.

My daughter has decided (since around August last year) that she is now a he. Every discussion ends in an argument and I get described as a TERF for raising any of the amazing points described in this article.

I really, really despair.

Dazzle US events are being discussed here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4142285-Biden-has-completely-obliterated-woman-s-sex-based-protections-as-he-said-he-would-do

I largely agree with Pinky, though, too much going on here to spend time on US issues. Different contexts, very different legal system, etc. If only they'd apply the same approach to the UK ...