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Primogeniture- who is a woman?

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Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 17/01/2021 09:32

I was wondering if anyone knew whether the Scottish Government's redefinition of the word "woman" affected Primogeniture, or whether they still know what a woman is when they want to exclude them from things?

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ArabellaScott · 17/01/2021 11:49

@dyslek

No women cant actually 'trans' themselves in to male privilage, shocker right!
Wow, who'd have thought it, crikey, blow me down. Hmm

I wonder if pushing to get this bit of the law changed might focus some minds? I suppose it's so niche most people don't care. It's just so BLOODY OBVIOUS that it's all set up to benefit one sex but not the other.

dyslek · 17/01/2021 10:57

No women cant actually 'trans' themselves in to male privilage, shocker right!

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Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 17/01/2021 10:35

I mean I'm disappointed in the law/ not in you tiredandgrumpy*. Ps your username= my life

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Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 17/01/2021 10:33

[quote TiredAndGrumpy85]No - they are just attempting to redefine the word "woman" for the purposes of the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Act 2018.

Primogeniture is still covered by s16 GRA 2004, and as you would expect Parliament decided that it would not be affected even if one obtains a GRC:
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/section/16[/quote]
Hmm thanks- that is useful/ disappointingly unsurprising

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MiladyBerserko · 17/01/2021 10:19

The government QC also said that the government would consider transwomen as women in all cases EXCEPT where it was explicitly stated otherwise, which has not been consulted upon, legislated for or agreed in any way.

The Scottish Gov were and are looking for set down cases as precedent.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 17/01/2021 09:38

I thought that the Scottish definition was just specific to the Gender Representation on Public Boards thing. I'm not sure of all the details but didn't one of the women's groups fighting this lose in court because the judge said it was only this one piece of legislation so wouldn't have a wider effect on women? Which is obviously nonsense. But yes, everyone certainly does seem to go all vague about who is a woman when it's about giving our stuff away to males, but get crystal clear again when it's about excluding actual women from equality and power. Who could have guessed?

donquixotedelamancha · 17/01/2021 09:37

I would not imagine it could because the provision that primogeniture is unaffected by a GRC is part of UK legislation (GRA).

I don't think the Scottish parliament has powers over peerages anyway.

TiredAndGrumpy85 · 17/01/2021 09:37

No - they are just attempting to redefine the word "woman" for the purposes of the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Act 2018.

Primogeniture is still covered by s16 GRA 2004, and as you would expect Parliament decided that it would not be affected even if one obtains a GRC:
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/section/16

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