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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feeling a bit bruised

42 replies

WorryBadger · 14/01/2021 16:06

Gagh. I've been "discussing" transgenderism on Twitter and been called a stupid bitch etc multiple times, and I just wanted to come on here to lick my wounds a bit because I am feeling very shaken and upset right now.

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Newwayofthinking · 14/01/2021 16:49

I am at the point of being so upset and angry, in equal measure

I don't know what to do to stop the erasure of the word woman and the TWAW, TMAM mantra (although the second causes no issues)

I feel like we (women) are just fighting a losing battle and should just give up.🤷‍♀️

Basically I feel your pain xx

fatblackcatspaw · 14/01/2021 16:45

hugs if its affecting you take a break - I'm pretty combative on twitter.... same handle as here.. btw you don't convert the people you spar with you do however convert the silent ones who follow you...

SnuggyBuggy · 14/01/2021 16:43

If something not true is said enough people start thinking it is true.

1forAll74 · 14/01/2021 16:36

Why bother with a lot of this social media rubbish, when you know for a fact that there are thousands of angry debating idiots on keyboards all over the world..

rabbitwoman · 14/01/2021 16:29

..... Of course, the brain thing is nonsense. What does a female brain do that is different to a male brain except exist in a female body? Of course, anyone who works with children knows that girls develop speech skills earlier than boys - does this mean that if a girl's speech is delayed, she is a boy? Or if a boy develops speech earlier, then he is really a girl? Of course not!

And what if a transgender person had a brain scan and found that they had the 'right' sort of brain after all, what would that mean? That they weren't transgender? They would be compelled to change the way they dressed, maybe?

What if I had a brain scan and actually my brain was a man's brain? Would I no longer be allowed to wear jewellery or make up?

It is nonsense......

rabbitwoman · 14/01/2021 16:23

There are male brains and female brains!?

Fantastic!! No need for self ID!! Just get a brain scan at birth - problem solved....

(see! Enough practice and you can counter any of their nonsense.....)

WorryBadger · 14/01/2021 16:20

@BumbleBiscuit

Are you new to the internet?
Lol, that made me smile. Yeah, you'd think so, wouldn't you. Why is it surprising that nasty people say nasty things online?
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WorryBadger · 14/01/2021 16:19

Thanks, all. I try not to get into these discussions, but sometimes it feels like we're being silenced because if you DO speak up you get piled on, so it's safer to say nothing and let the bigots have their way.

And I was accused of arguing against scientific fact, because as any phule noes, there are "male brains" and "female brains".

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rabbitwoman · 14/01/2021 16:17

On the other hand, engaging and listening does arm you with all the information you need to fight your corner. You know exactly what they are going to say and how to counter it (there is a thread on here at the moment with a poster parroting all the usual fake facts, and they are being handed their arsed because we have heard it all before!!)

That is one thing many of these people won't do. They won't listen or engage, so when presented with facts, statistics and rationality they got nothing - except male pattern rage.....

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 14/01/2021 16:16

Nice to see BumbleBiscuit continuing the theme of 'any rude arsehole can get online' though.

ChattyLion · 14/01/2021 16:15

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Seriouslymole · 14/01/2021 16:15

Just step away from Twitter for a bit - it's like a bear pit sometimes. You know you're right, we know you're right, don't sweat it.

rabbitwoman · 14/01/2021 16:13

Twitter is probably not the best place for a sensible conversation about this subject. Strangers are horrible to strangers - you can't talk to people like that in real life without consequences, but on twitter, why not just let rip and let out all your frustration on someone who is completely anonymous? who is going to hold you to account, what are the consequences going to be?

I also don't think that a lot of the most viscous of these online bullies even care about trans rights. The cause doesn't matter, its just an excuse to let out their vile side.

When it's real life friends you have known for decades, that's when it is really sad.....

SnuggyBuggy · 14/01/2021 16:11

There doesn't seem to be much room for a rational, respectful debate does there?

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 14/01/2021 16:10

Urgh it feels awful doesn't it? I had to stop after a while because SANITY. You can't change their minds, you just can't. May as well step away for a bit,

BumbleBiscuit · 14/01/2021 16:09

Are you new to the internet?