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UppityPuppity · 05/01/2021 17:53

Gardeners - the previous thread was deleted because I linked a tweet from Safe Schools Alliance.

There is a hearing on 12th Jan to try & secure a judicial review of the CPS’s membership of Stonewall’s champions programme. Please support the crowd justice fundraising.

Please google SSA/crowd justice. You know what to do.

Remember to remove the CJ donation - and if you can afford it, add it instead to your donation. Google what Crowd Justice did to Allison Bailey if you want to know why.

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MichelleofzeResistance · 12/01/2021 16:12

For the bigger issue, we are probably going to ask for review (judicial or executive, by the governing bodies of our employers) on the basis that hitching up to Stonewall’s programme creates, and/or can be seen to create, a hostile working environment for employees seeking to exercise their rights to freedom of speech and conscience; and their legal rights to single-sex spaces.

This.

I thought it was very debatable to try to paint the CPS involvement with Stonewall as merely just about employee type nice support. Wise made it clear: there are commmittments well beyond how you treat employees and that the guidance ever existed demonstrates that affiliation with Stonewall is to promote and incorporate Stonewall's political stance. The CPS has no business reflecting or furthering the interests of any political group, and its undeniable that this has happened.

I'm sure there are sighs of relief that this huge can of worms has managed to keep its lid on for one more day, but I don't see how this decision is defensible, the facts just don't add up.

highame · 12/01/2021 16:03

Do you know when the judgement will be available crossparsley

Whatwouldscullydo · 12/01/2021 16:03

So this is yet another case of guidebce being withdrawn to ensure no one looks at it?

Isnt that what happened with OCC and thr 14 counties that followed suit ?

Why won't they let it get to court?

crossparsley · 12/01/2021 15:59

This decision seems to imply that public bodies are reviewable if they promote or pursue the aims of lobbying groups, against the existing law. It would be good if the judgment says that. For the bigger issue, we are probably going to ask for review (judicial or executive, by the governing bodies of our employers) on the basis that hitching up to Stonewall’s programme creates, and/or can be seen to create, a hostile working environment for employees seeking to exercise their rights to freedom of speech and conscience; and their legal rights to single-sex spaces. Onwards; they are in the legal, and moral, wrong.

BuntingEllacott · 12/01/2021 15:57

So basically, everyone knows it showed bias, but as it's been withdrawn and today they said they weren't actually going to review it, we can play the three wise monkeys about Stonewall's influence over the policies of government bodies towards women and girls.

Good to fucking know.

highame · 12/01/2021 15:57

Lets hope the government keep their commitment to look at lobby groups.

I do think that sometimes government waits on the results of a court case to see whether they need to take any actions. Here's hoping

MichelleofzeResistance · 12/01/2021 15:54

Review not granted - on the grounds of there being 'no plans' to re issue the schools' guidance.

Which does not mean to say there won't ever be plans in the future, and is also tacit admission that this guidance was unacceptably biased and would have given grounds to review, and therefore demonstrates that the problem does exist and everyone knows it. The issue is clear in that the guidance was ever issued in the first place! It's not made all better by the fact it's been temporarily put on ice, that does nothing to change the bias of opinion and political involvement that put CPS down the path to write it in the first place.

highame · 12/01/2021 15:54

It does mean that public bodies will have to take more care and to show that they are not biased. The Judge stated that this wasn't about who was right or wrong, so it isn't a win for the CPS

highame · 12/01/2021 15:52

I think it would have succeeded had CPS not withdrawn their guidance.

TheBigBad · 12/01/2021 15:50

Not granted Sad

WarOnWomen · 12/01/2021 15:50

Not granted

MichelleofzeResistance · 12/01/2021 15:50

Unsure of why the schools guidance with no plans to reissue makes things All Better... .surely the issue is that it was created in the first place demonstrating the bias in play. The political agenda presented as the objective truth, and the suppression of girls' rights as good practice.

Bias, front and centre!

TheBigBad · 12/01/2021 15:46

I really can't look.

Manderleyagain · 12/01/2021 15:45

Yes refresh refresh here too.

TheBigBad · 12/01/2021 15:41

The tension is palpable.

gardenbird48 · 12/01/2021 15:23

Is it me or is the court arguing back hard??

I can’t look ... 🙈🙈

Whatwouldscullydo · 12/01/2021 15:13

Placemarking for update

highame · 12/01/2021 14:55

me too stealthsquirrel Grin Which reminds me, the squirrel in my garden is a real thug 😂 and is trying to undo knots from my Heath Robinson squirrel proof bird feeder

gardenbird48 · 12/01/2021 14:49

I’m not sure I can stand the tension - it will horrible if the jr isn’t granted.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 12/01/2021 14:34

Anyone else obsessively refreshing @SafeSchools_UK
twitter feed in anticipation?

MerchedCymru · 12/01/2021 13:45

This is such a vitally important hearing. Have dug...
Good luck all!

PopperUppleton · 12/01/2021 13:33

I've just read The Times article and comments linked up thread and need to express more fangirling of (for?) Jo March 😍

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 12/01/2021 12:38

Thanks for posting this. Just put on my gardening gloves and done a bit of digging.

Good luck

Manderleyagain · 12/01/2021 11:38

Safe schools alliance have tweeted that they are remotely attending the hearing at 2.30 and hope to live tweet. Good luck to them! I hope they manage to secure a judicial review.

highame · 12/01/2021 08:53

Hope today goes well bigdad

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