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My night just ended with me crying in the bathroom over JK Rowling

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Vespa1 · 05/01/2021 02:36

This thread is mostly a vent and searching for post of support because I feel like crap.

My flat mate and I couldn't sleep so we were in bathroom planning how to redo it soon. Somehow the conversation turned to Harry Potter and he said "JK Rowling... what a terf!"

I said I can't believe he just said that and asked him did he read her essay. He said he did not, only her tweets.

So I told him what she said about her being a domestic violence survivor and how that affects the way she feels when she is in an intimate space with a man and I told him about her saying she thinks the rise in teen girls transitioning is motivated by misogyny and I told him I agree with her because of my personal experiences with male violence and how I would have probably transitioned too if it was a thing when I was a teen. I started crying while saying that because it triggered my experience with male violence.

He said that makes sense and that he agrees. He said he's sorry and that he will read the full essay. He said it shows there is no such thing as nuanced conversations on twitter and that is why he deleted twitter recently.

I know I should feel better that he apologized and agreed but it really bothers me how quick men are to brand women the slurs like terf. I asked him does he even knows what that means and when he said he does I asked him does he know what radical feminist means. There was a two minutes silence before admitting he doesn't have a clue.

So why are you branding her something that you don't even know what it is?

Arghhh rant over. When this nonsense ends the same people will pretend they agreed with her from the start.

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SusannaSpider · 05/01/2021 06:51

I was really sad this Christmas when DD said don't buy me anything Harry Potter related, second hand is OK as JK won't be benefit from it. I was shocked, DD is 15, has always been fairly sensible about this kind of thing and her school isn't particularly woke. But it turns out JK is not acceptable with anyone she knows. She knows my point of view and agrees with bits of it, but said there is no way she'd dare raise it at school. It makes me soo, so cross and I just see them as silly little girls who have no life experience. It worries me because if this is happening at their very unenlightened school (they have a bad problem with racism), then it is happening everywhere. It is so depressing.

AnyOldPrion · 05/01/2021 06:33

Had two similar conversations on Twitter in the past two days, both men from the US, both ended up conceding I had a point.

Both followed me after the discussions and I confess I rolled my eyes and was bloody annoyed with them. Doubtless they think they’re showing respect for following me or something, but I wish they wouldn’t. Okay to need time to understand the issues, but why does it have to start from a point of such hostility towards a woman for expressing her opinion in a non-confrontational, wholly decent manner.

I understand why you’d cry. This was your flat mate and you’ve discovered he’s a sexist asshole. It’s a shock to discover so many men have negativity towards women as a default. But please be very proud of yourself for speaking up. It must have taken courage. When you’re ready, dry your tears, hold your head high and carry on.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 05/01/2021 05:48

Good for you. Please don't cry.

Molesmokes · 05/01/2021 03:48

🏅For letting the light of truth shine out, dispelling the darkness of ignorance and bigotry! Flowers

lionheart · 05/01/2021 02:45
Flowers

Good for you for standing your ground.

AvocadoBathroom · 05/01/2021 02:44

He's an uneducated wanker.
I'm glad he will take the time (ffs, why are men so dim)
But you know the truth and so do we.
My daughter looked me in the face today and said if it wasn't for JK she would be thinking she was a man now.
He doesn't matter. She does. You as a keeper of the truth matter. Dont cry anymore tonight.