“Soul” movie - casual sexism

Carlotta obviously it went right over my head then

Yes I noticed this too. Kind of unpleasant.
I struggled a bit with the plot.
I read somewhere it was similar to Coco - but Coco was a far more enjoyable film.

I thought it was a lovely film, sexist joke aside. The best summary I’ve seen is ‘your passion is not your purpose’. Joe is so focused on achieving his goals as a musician that he forgets to engage in other parts of his life: he misses the beauty around him and doesn’t form meaningful relationships. I think it has a great message about the importance of pursuing the things you love, but finding the balance to enjoy the rest of your life as well.

We noticed the 'white woman' dig too. Not necessary and pretty rude to a lot of their audience.
The film was nice enough and followed a very well trod path for typical Disney characters, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised. The main character just isn't terribly likeable, he's selfish and lacks empathy but has a learning curve via the unborn soul. All tickety boo in the end.
It's not Pixar's finest work tbh.

I thought that was the point though Hopping. He thought his whole life’s purpose was to play the piano on stage but he was wrong.

Maybe I’m old and boring but when I was watching Soul I was thinking
“FFS, if you were that good you would have made it already, take the secure job and play the piano as a hobby” if his wife was on here I would have had some very strong advice for her!

I rewatched trainspotting the other day. Those boys were experiencing each moment as it arose.

It's a superficial statement that means nothing and changes nothing.

I would far rather have a great job that I enjoyed and that pays well, than experience each moment as it comes.

I'd far rather say everyone should have clean water and decent sanitation and safety and food and whatnot than experience every moment as it comes.

Sorry I've had a few drinks. I'd be interested to know what appeals to you about that message.

Is it a thing that plays better to a USA audience I wonder?

I've never heard the phrase 'white woman voice' before and assume it refers to a certain subsection of women who are white but beyond that (the obvious) I have literally no idea what that means.

Although I'm white so it's more than possible this is a UK thing that I just don't know about.

Could you give some context at all? I mean if you feel comfy doing so.

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The message of the film was that life's beauty and meaning is not about goals or status but by experiencing each moment as it arises'

I've not seen the film. But it sounds like a brilliant way to explain why poor people/ oppressed people/ people who never stood a chance should be happy with their lot.

Again, not resonating with me.

I didn't mind the dig about the white womanvoice. It was a bit jarring but I had forgotten about it until.i read this thread. I'm not sure what point the poster is making about I'm Sorry To Bother You? That is a film with a lot to say about race but I wouldn't say it's sexist.

The deal with the gig in Soul wasn't that he couldn't have done it and teach too, (though that would surely have been exhausting, given that he would need to play into the small hours every night and teach during the day), but more that once he got his dream gig, he didn't feel the sense of completeness and achievement he expected.

The message of the film was that life's beauty and meaning is not about goals or status but by experiencing each moment as it arises. It's nothing revolutionary but my daughter and I liked it a lot. And the music was gorgeous.

Exactly, the gig he got was in the city he lived in, he could have done both!

But that wouldn't have sucked up two hours of my life would it! Damn you Pixar.

They have something similar in the film “Sorry to Bother You”
Basically there is a broke young black man who gets a tele-sales job.
When he gets a tip to use a “white voice” at work he suddenly gets very successful and becomes a “power caller” and then he’s making lots of money but the “whiter” he gets the more morally corrupt the sales deals become and more corrupt he gets.
This is not a children’s film btw.

Oh. DC and I loved it
But yes, totes unnecessary line.

I also noticed it, it was very jarring. Disappointed in Disney.

I thought the whole thing was shit - didn’t grab the kids, weird nonsensical plot, boring main character. Why can’t he have a permanent teaching job and play in a jazz band at night? Plus he was horrible to 22, who is a female unborn child. Selfish prick.

Better off watching Father Ted

I really thought Soul was rubbish. Was really disappointed.

The movies pretty rubbish, too try hard to resonate with most of the 6-9 year olds it’s presumably aimed at

Yes it was noted here too

Yup - noticed this too, not amused.

I found that enraging tbh.

Julia sawalha chicken run 2

www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/chicken-run-actress-julia-sawalha-told-voice-is-too-old-to-reprise-role-12025846

There was an actress recently who was told her voice was too old to reprise a voice. She went public about it saying wtf my voice is the same.

I'll try to find it.

I didn't see soul but depressing to hear this.

Me too a bit which is a shame because I thought it was an otherwise fantastic film.

Yep. Couldn't miss that dig. Such a shame as it's a great movie