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I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more" says Green Party Women's leader

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FreshFreesias · 30/12/2020 15:53

The new chair of Green Party Women, a transwoman going under the name of Kathryn Bristow, one of whose personal pronouns is `fae' (no me neither), is really thrilled at the effects of her HRT (that's where it all is! No shortage for some!) recently tweeted:

twitter.com/KathrynBristow/status/1343259759701618688?s=20

"Just started crying for no particular reason.
It's so wonderful, I've always just wanted to be able to feel my emotions. I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more".

The casual and offensive sexist stereotyping is off the scale of course.

A quick glance through her tweets shows absolutely zero interest in er, Green stuff. No tweets about climate change, animal welfare, recycling... anything remotely environmental at all.

I know the Green Party's innate misogyny is nothing new here but I had to vent. They are going from bad to worse. The trouble is, those not active on Twitter or social media are not aware of the danger this Party poses.

I'm not even sure if Kathryn is even transitioned?

And why do so many transwomen have an annoying little `cute' smile in their profile pics? It's just annoying.

I used to have a position of responsibility in the Green Party in the noughties and there was none of this rubbish. We were completely consumed with environmental concerns and animal welfare. People used to make fun of us because we were beardy and sandal clad and unworldly but at least we were authentic.

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endofthelinefinally · 30/12/2020 18:12

I can't wear make up or dye my hair because the drugs I am on have knackered my skin. I can't walk unless I wear flat shoes.
Luckily my dh still thinks I am a woman. Phew.

JellySlice · 30/12/2020 18:09

@endofthelinefinally

I worked all my career in health care and had to keep my nails short and unvarnished. Obviously that must mean I am not a proper woman. I did birth 3 dc though. Hmm.
I'm on HRT. Must be a transwoman then.
bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 17:53

It's not HRT. I struggled to get it for the actual female menopause.
Wanker.

endofthelinefinally · 30/12/2020 17:52

In the middle of a public health crisis, a global environmental crisis, an economic crisis, tweeting about ones hormones, emotions and manicure is extemely attention seeking and self absorbed. Does this person really think that these things are what are important to women's groups generally and green party women in particular?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/12/2020 17:49

I look at the fawning responses to tweets like the ones linked above and I just don't get it. As I find myself thinking a million times a day, what happened to critical thinking? Was it always in short supply and we just didn't know because there was no social media for people to make fools of themselves on?

If a person went public with claims to be almost anything else they're manifestly not - e.g. to do with ethnicity or age - they could expect a pretty robust response. What makes this so different?

Deliriumoftheendless · 30/12/2020 17:48

Is it produced in the same way as HRT? I don’t really know about this.

I ask because I remember way back (before HRT was necessary for me) animal welfare groups complaining about the conditions the pregnant mares were kept in. I don’t know if medical advancement has made horse piss unnecessary.

Is there another way of producing HRT now (because I would be interested in it if it’s not harmful to animals).

2bazookas · 30/12/2020 17:44

That warped fantasy notion of what it is to be a woman, perfectly iullustrates why transgenders like Bristow will never pass as one.

endofthelinefinally · 30/12/2020 17:38

I agree. Sinister.

FreshFreesias · 30/12/2020 17:36

Honestly, I’m revolted and appalled by the Green Party.
It is a danger and a menace to society.

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BreatheAndFocus · 30/12/2020 17:32

I think it’s incredibly sad to see the Greens lose their way so much. They should go back to environmental concerns and animal welfare - so badly needed now. They could have done so much.

Apologies for any typos - my girl tears are getting in my eyes a bit tonight. Must get another truckload of tissues for my daily female-y weep.

PotholeParadies · 30/12/2020 17:28

And they got themselves into this after the PR disaster that was Aimee Challenor and Aimee's father David 'Baloo' Challenor, rapist.

They should have been reviewing the situation to stop anything similar happening again.

endofthelinefinally · 30/12/2020 17:18

I have no sympathy for the green party. They got themselves into this situation, wilfully and with their eyes wide open.

Chewbecca · 30/12/2020 17:08

Blimey, I have just stumbled across this and am appalled. Firstly that the lead of a women's group doesn't really know what it is like to be a woman and secondly the tripe on the Twitter feed that would get any serious female politician laughed out. It's outrageous.

RozWatching · 30/12/2020 16:53

I feel for the sensible GP members, I really do, but this shit was inevitable when they started defining people as "self-identifying non-female/male".

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 30/12/2020 16:48

What the actual fuck have I just read?! Honestly I despair. Regressive sexist shit. At least the comments are mainly calling them out on it. Unlike the rest of their feed which makes for depressing reading. Wake up Greens, this is not what the majority of voters are looking for in an environmental party.

Winesalot · 30/12/2020 16:44

RufustheSniggeringReindeer

Same here. Although I still use ladies in a positive sense and now I also use female. all.the.time. Because it is very clear language and defines who I am talking about when it is important to be very clear.

MichelleofzeResistance · 30/12/2020 16:43

Decades of women fighting to be taken seriously in public roles, convincing the world that they were more than hair, nails, emotions and those stupid limiting stereotypes, and that women can be public figures and do as good a job if not better.

And then male people get those public roles and use them not to demonstrate how good they are at the role, or to do anything for the image of the group they come from, but to have a public stance from which to demonstrate stereotypes that reduce women.

JohnMcClane · 30/12/2020 16:38

Cross post @EdgeOfACoin

Can't imagine any of those women doing it either.

MichelleofzeResistance · 30/12/2020 16:37

That's lovely you're having a lovely time crying Kathryn.

Now about the totally fucked environment, the 1000 deaths a day, the massive issues faced by people whose jobs and businesses are going under, the teachers facing classes full of infected kids, the people torn between sending kids to school and working....?

And being a bit less massively and offensively sexist while you're working would be nice too.

JohnMcClane · 30/12/2020 16:37

Trying to imagine Kamala Harris tweeting about her manicures and irrational crying..... hmm, no, wouldn't happen.

EdgeOfACoin · 30/12/2020 16:36

@testing987654321

I have to say I love this guy, fae are hilarious. Is that how you use it?

Here's another gem to enjoy. Fae is a very serious politician.

mobile.twitter.com/KathrynBristow/status/1344082992717844487

Can you imagine Theresa May or Nicola Sturgeon posing and tweeting about pretty fingernails? Or Priti Patel, Liz Truss or Yvette Cooper? Or even Caroline Lucas or Diane Abbott?

Fae is utterly, utterly clueless.

zzizz · 30/12/2020 16:33

Seriously, can you imagine an actual female politician (or wannabe politician) daring to say anything like this? She would be ridiculed off the Internet and assumed incapable of her job.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 30/12/2020 16:32

We were completely consumed with environmental concerns and animal welfare.

Presumably the same reasons most people joined the Green Party. I can’t see many bothering to join for its current obsessions, which can be more easily pursued on Twitter. So goodbye Green Party.

Anyone up for joining a political party centred on protecting the environment and animal welfare?

ColourMagic · 30/12/2020 16:32

The announcement that Kathryn Bristow is now co chair of Green Party Women's group appears to be welcomed by some on the FB page, but others seem to be cross that GC women are also making their views known:

www.facebook.com/greenpartywomen

SunsetBeetch · 30/12/2020 16:28

Oh heck, I hadn't relieved that Kathryn works for Gender GP!

www.gendergp.com/changing-my-gender-marker-was-easier-than-i-expected/

Interesting thread about Gender GP here - expect more horror stories to come:

twitter.com/DanialWebb/status/1343815417417101312?s=20