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I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more" says Green Party Women's leader

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FreshFreesias · 30/12/2020 15:53

The new chair of Green Party Women, a transwoman going under the name of Kathryn Bristow, one of whose personal pronouns is `fae' (no me neither), is really thrilled at the effects of her HRT (that's where it all is! No shortage for some!) recently tweeted:

twitter.com/KathrynBristow/status/1343259759701618688?s=20

"Just started crying for no particular reason.
It's so wonderful, I've always just wanted to be able to feel my emotions. I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more".

The casual and offensive sexist stereotyping is off the scale of course.

A quick glance through her tweets shows absolutely zero interest in er, Green stuff. No tweets about climate change, animal welfare, recycling... anything remotely environmental at all.

I know the Green Party's innate misogyny is nothing new here but I had to vent. They are going from bad to worse. The trouble is, those not active on Twitter or social media are not aware of the danger this Party poses.

I'm not even sure if Kathryn is even transitioned?

And why do so many transwomen have an annoying little `cute' smile in their profile pics? It's just annoying.

I used to have a position of responsibility in the Green Party in the noughties and there was none of this rubbish. We were completely consumed with environmental concerns and animal welfare. People used to make fun of us because we were beardy and sandal clad and unworldly but at least we were authentic.

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DieHardIsAXmasMovie · 30/12/2020 20:38

These new politicians are a true gift...

To the Tory party.

testing987654321 · 30/12/2020 20:34

Well Bristow appears to be on message regarding winning over voters.

I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more" says Green Party Women's leader
Needmoresleep · 30/12/2020 20:29

I agree, but it is so sad.

We need a singles issue environmental party to hold the government of the day to account.

Cailleach1 · 30/12/2020 20:28

Reminds me of an interview with Cissie Charlton (Jack Charlton's mother) on Irish tv. She spent a short while working in a wealthy house in London. Food was not to be wasted where she grew up and she compared this with the fact they put milk on the hall tiles to shine them up. She saw this as a waste of the milk. They literally spilt it on the floor when it was designed to be used for nourishment.

I hope no woman has to do without the HRT she needs because resources are being used for males.

endofthelinefinally · 30/12/2020 20:26

The green party need to be honest about the fact that they have changed their philosophy, their policies, their raison d'etre. They are now the trans party. Which is fine. People need to be informed about these things. Then they can make their minds up whether to join.
Ditto the lib dems.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 30/12/2020 20:19

@RozWatching

"Please never join, thanks"

Great membership recruitment strategy.

It worked so well for the lib dems
Cailleach1 · 30/12/2020 20:18

Are they hawking their business then? Promoting cross sex hormones to possible clients?

Is selling cross sex hormones like that still legal in the UK?

QueenoftheAir · 30/12/2020 20:16

@glinner absolutely slayed the head tilt. After reading his squib on it (on his Substack, I think?) you can't see those headshots in the same way ever again.

And it's not HRT if you're not a woman, because it's not replacing hormones lost via menopause. It's synthetic cross-sex hormones.

I never took them for menopause (although I read that they're good for this dratted insomnia) but it is enraging that women who need HRT are suffering a shortage but there's plenty for unnecessary medication - because aren't we told ad nauseam that it's transphobic to expect that transwomen do anything to alter their bodies?

ColourMagic · 30/12/2020 20:10

Kathryb Bristow "loving being on HRT so much..." is not purely a personal statement. Kathryn Bristow is 'Pathway Advisor at GenderGP'. Enthusing about female hormone treatment can only be leading statements in such a job.

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Here is Kathryn Bristow on the GenderGP site explaining how to change both name and gender marker on passports.

www.gendergp.com/changing-my-gender-marker-was-easier-than-i-expected/
Author:
Kat Bristow, Pathway Advisor at GenderGP.

RozWatching · 30/12/2020 20:02

"Please never join, thanks"

Great membership recruitment strategy.

persistentwoman · 30/12/2020 19:54

@MichelleofzeResistance

Women's officer, doing something women in a political post wouldn't do in public because embarrassing, derogatory and unhelpful to women, and which would pretty much end a woman in a political post ever being taken seriously, being respected or considered fit for the job.

Thereby demonstrating, TW are TW, who can freely behave as TW and be read by the general public as TW, and benefit in doing so from the male privilege which makes a huge difference. Whatever. If TW can and wish to get away with this kind of behaviour and not being taken seriously, crack on. I'm all for diversity in public posts, and the kind of public image they want is something the TW community get to decide for themselves and deal with the consequences of. But by extension this demonstrates that TW should not be in female posts, taking away these opportunities from females and damaging the very hard won little respect and foothold in public life that they have managed to gain.

THIS!
FreshFreesias · 30/12/2020 19:53

Sian Berry is awful. The smugness and sanctimony is off the scale.

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PotholeParadies · 30/12/2020 19:43

Here is something that came up earlier in the year, regarding the Green Party position on TW. Sian Berry is co-leader of the party in England and Wales, so this is not just a member of a branch being opinionated on twitter.

Regarding double-standards, it reminds me of the Mrs Gloss make-up group. A woman and a transwoman posting selfies of themselves always got a very different tone of reply.

I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more" says Green Party Women's leader
Needmoresleep · 30/12/2020 19:41

Does Sian Berry genuinely expect good rational people to give up their time to canvass for ‘leaders’ like this? And does she expect that the message being given out is one that will appeal to an average floating voter?

I am convinced that people disaffected with other parties (plenty of Tories don’t like Boris, and plenty of Labour/libdems feel homeless) would vote Green if it had a clear environmental message, and the cohesion to focus on that message.

But that is a very long way from where it is now.

despairenting · 30/12/2020 19:37

Anyway, as a Green, I'm not really liking this person so far, based on this callous, misogynistic and downright insane tweet:

mobile.twitter.com/KathrynBristow/status/1343576561627361281

I would LOVE to forget about sex and remove it as a concept, but unfortunately the female body won't let me do that. Spoken like a true prostate owner...

It just beggars belief

Winesalot · 30/12/2020 19:34

I think the double standards are appalling. I cannot think that women would respect women who propose to be political leaders tweeting in this fashion. Yet, they are supporting these tweets and yes, some people are calling it brave. They really are down the rabbit hole and cannot see their own hypocrisy.

despairenting · 30/12/2020 19:34

In my experience, bursting into tears for seemingly no reason isn't 'feeling your emotions', it's clinical depression Hmm

RozWatching · 30/12/2020 19:29

Mood swings can be linked to hormonal imbalances, so it makes sense that a trans person with medically altered estrogen/testosterone levels might feel a bit teary. But does the whole world need to hear about it? It's not a sign of womanhood, if that's what they're thinking.

FlyingEl · 30/12/2020 19:07

It’s mind-boggling. I have today left the Green Party. Have had my doubts for some time, but having a man as co-chair of Green Party Women was the last straw. I mean, a feminist man would be one thing - we can sure do with more feminists among men - but I’d still not agree with a man as chair of women’s group. A man who says he’s a woman and female? Would he do yoga with us next?? In his/her ‘solo-polyamorous’ capacity? Kathryn’s profile on Twitter is very revealing. I read a lot today about Green Party’s support for trans issues over any other issues; I had not previously realised that there was such a push within the party for everyone to agree that trans women were women with no room for debate. I miss the time when I innocently believed that the Greens were about the environment and staving off climate catastrophe!

MichelleofzeResistance · 30/12/2020 18:58

Women's officer, doing something women in a political post wouldn't do in public because embarrassing, derogatory and unhelpful to women, and which would pretty much end a woman in a political post ever being taken seriously, being respected or considered fit for the job.

Thereby demonstrating, TW are TW, who can freely behave as TW and be read by the general public as TW, and benefit in doing so from the male privilege which makes a huge difference. Whatever. If TW can and wish to get away with this kind of behaviour and not being taken seriously, crack on. I'm all for diversity in public posts, and the kind of public image they want is something the TW community get to decide for themselves and deal with the consequences of. But by extension this demonstrates that TW should not be in female posts, taking away these opportunities from females and damaging the very hard won little respect and foothold in public life that they have managed to gain.

PotholeParadies · 30/12/2020 18:50

@Needmoresleep

Where is the Green Party leadership? Asleep at the wheel?
Sian Berry (co-leader) is apparently fully on board with this.
Deliriumoftheendless · 30/12/2020 18:29

Thanks Chewbecca.

Chewbecca · 30/12/2020 18:25

delirium HRT used to be made from pregnant horse’s urine but now is made from synthesised yams so is (I believe) vegan friendly.

Needmoresleep · 30/12/2020 18:22

Where is the Green Party leadership? Asleep at the wheel?

endofthelinefinally · 30/12/2020 18:16

I do cry a lot, but that is due to grief, not hormones. I find this person's comments beyond offensive.