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I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more" says Green Party Women's leader

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FreshFreesias · 30/12/2020 15:53

The new chair of Green Party Women, a transwoman going under the name of Kathryn Bristow, one of whose personal pronouns is `fae' (no me neither), is really thrilled at the effects of her HRT (that's where it all is! No shortage for some!) recently tweeted:

twitter.com/KathrynBristow/status/1343259759701618688?s=20

"Just started crying for no particular reason.
It's so wonderful, I've always just wanted to be able to feel my emotions. I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more".

The casual and offensive sexist stereotyping is off the scale of course.

A quick glance through her tweets shows absolutely zero interest in er, Green stuff. No tweets about climate change, animal welfare, recycling... anything remotely environmental at all.

I know the Green Party's innate misogyny is nothing new here but I had to vent. They are going from bad to worse. The trouble is, those not active on Twitter or social media are not aware of the danger this Party poses.

I'm not even sure if Kathryn is even transitioned?

And why do so many transwomen have an annoying little `cute' smile in their profile pics? It's just annoying.

I used to have a position of responsibility in the Green Party in the noughties and there was none of this rubbish. We were completely consumed with environmental concerns and animal welfare. People used to make fun of us because we were beardy and sandal clad and unworldly but at least we were authentic.

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Needmoresleep · 31/12/2020 09:14

Endoftheline, Teresa Gorman was one of those formidable women that the right wing of the Tory party sometimes throw up. Agree with them or not, they stick to their guns, though I did feel sorry for John Major. I admire strong women, whether her or Linda Bellos and Germaine Greer, even if I would not want to vote for them. On one level do women a favour by not falling in with what men expect of them, and sometimes they apply their doggedness to something useful like HRT, or Ann Widdicombe and the original GRA.

In contrast I find Sian Berry's look-at-me girlishness off-putting and as for her willingness to cave to male demands....some backbone would come in handy.

MondayYogurt · 31/12/2020 07:20

What exactly is the carbon footprint of turning a man into a woman? 🧐

Wandawomble · 31/12/2020 02:48

The ratio...😂

endofthelinefinally · 31/12/2020 02:35

Teresa Gorman was raising awareness and campaigning for hrt to be available on the nhs for women who needed it. At that time it was extremely difficult to get.

Needmoresleep · 31/12/2020 00:14

“I am Florence Nightingale to the middle-aged woman; the St Teresa of the menopause,” proclaimed Teresa Gorman, the former Conservative MP for Billericay, in Essex

Follow that, Kat.

Needmoresleep · 31/12/2020 00:11

Kathryn Bristow and Teresa Gorman. Now that is a pairing!

Fifthtimelucky · 31/12/2020 00:05

@EdgeOfACoin

How can I put this...

I can't recall a time when a female MP felt the need to Tweet about being on HRT. Furthermore, in my experience, women in positions of responsibility tend not to cry in public or talk about crying, in case it leads people to think that they are weak, overly-emotional or not up to the job.

It is strange how Bristow's Tweet is so unlike anything I would expect a female politician to write.

It's long before the days of tweeting but Teresa Gorman, who was then the Tory MP for Billericay, was publicly extolling the virtues of HRT back in the 1980s!
Needmoresleep · 30/12/2020 23:33

Yes, but surely the point of a political party is to get electoral support and thereby influence policy.

It’s all so studenty. As if the aim is limited to gaining support from within your party. Yes this is enough to give you leadership, but of a falling body of members, and a limited group of voters.

What about the long view....achieving measurable and effective environmental improvements.it feels as if the GP leadership either doesn’t care, or simply has no clue about how politics in a democracy works.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 30/12/2020 23:24

*Where is the Green Party leadership? Asleep at the wheel?8

Sad to say they are enthusiastic supporters of this crap.

thenightsky · 30/12/2020 22:47

@terryleather

It's not HRT, it's cross sex hormones. They didn't have female hormones to replace in the first instance.
Yes, this is what I shout at the screen every time I see the HRT remark. Its not a 'replacement' you fools.
Justhadathought · 30/12/2020 22:42

Emotions and feelings are not the exact same thing. Emotion is raw and primal, whereas feeling involves our responses to lived experience, and involve some degree of reflection.

QueenoftheAir · 30/12/2020 22:10

Kathryn’s receding hairline is super feminine

Oh but Kathryn tilts Kathryn’s head so winningly.

SunsetBeetch · 30/12/2020 22:07

[quote HecatesCats]Actual GP candidate wants to work to make sure all women who believe in biological sex are ultimately unwelcome in the party - thread here in which she's appeasing an individual who is cross that a woman who believes in biological sex is co-chair of Green Party Women. It's not enough, as the candidate points out, that a transwoman and trans allies now make up most of the committee. They are so lost:

twitter.com/bristol_pip/status/1343894627414368258?s=21[/quote]
And it's still not enough for the man she's trying to appease!

EdgeOfACoin · 30/12/2020 21:59

@Cailleach1

The Green Party could merge with the WEP (Whatever you're having yourself Equality Party. Streamline better what to ignore on the ballot paper.

All those fine principles. Except when it comes to those adult female humans which used to be called women in English. I think women having souls used to be disputed in Christianity. Not fully human. Here we are still with men now promoting a theology which reduces women to an idea. Or an 'attitude' as stated by that Green Party 'attitude'.

I thought it was the ancient Greeks who thought women didn't have souls? Am not familiar with this ever having been mainstream Christian doctrine.
Cailleach1 · 30/12/2020 21:51

The Green Party could merge with the WEP (Whatever you're having yourself Equality Party. Streamline better what to ignore on the ballot paper.

All those fine principles. Except when it comes to those adult female humans which used to be called women in English. I think women having souls used to be disputed in Christianity. Not fully human. Here we are still with men now promoting a theology which reduces women to an idea. Or an 'attitude' as stated by that Green Party 'attitude'.

MondayYogurt · 30/12/2020 21:51

I used to vote Green. But then they disavowed human population growth as a factor in climate change because "racist".

HecatesCats · 30/12/2020 21:35

Actual GP candidate wants to work to make sure all women who believe in biological sex are ultimately unwelcome in the party - thread here in which she's appeasing an individual who is cross that a woman who believes in biological sex is co-chair of Green Party Women. It's not enough, as the candidate points out, that a transwoman and trans allies now make up most of the committee. They are so lost:

twitter.com/bristol_pip/status/1343894627414368258?s=21

Cailleach1 · 30/12/2020 21:26

Thanks @ColourMagic. Didn't mean to be twenty questions! The irony is amazing.

Green Party up there presenting itself as being the most ethical and principled on the planet. I am surprised there seems to be no ethical standards to which such members have to adhere. At the very least a declaration of interest as you may profit from any business you tout.

Or maybe that would draw attention to the very dodgy past of this GenderGP; which was revealed when scrutinised by a British court. Criminal conviction, eh. First Wales, onto England and then to Spain etc. etc. One can only wonder why this outfit moved to a different jurisdiction. Maybe Spain have the very high standards and GenderGP wanted that as it now complies with the highest and tightest regulations. That must be it.

Very sad about the teenager taking his own life.

Shedbuilder · 30/12/2020 21:20

So angry. The electorate deserve so much better than this. It's absolutely scandalous that after the Challenor saga we have this.

ColourMagic · 30/12/2020 20:55

A current Thread about Gender GP Safeguarding Concerns (The Company that Kathryn Bristow is Pathway Advisor for)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4120473-Gender-GP-Safeguarding-Concerns

MichelleofzeResistance · 30/12/2020 20:55

The green party need to be honest about the fact that they have changed their philosophy, their policies, their raison d'etre.

I think one of the things I find so offensive and so depressing about this is how obvious it makes it that the women's officer post is seen as nothing more than a token post.

There's no apparent political passion at all, no inspiring leadership for women, or even evidence of basic interest in politics regarding women. No concern at all about appearing vacuous and twee, tweets focused not on sharing any message beyond their personal life. You get the impression that the post is regarded as worthless unless in use to showcase a TW.

PotholeParadies · 30/12/2020 20:53

I don't think the Green Party can afford to be honest about their change in direction.

At this point, I am a strident GC MNer, but I am trying to imagine what I would have thought of Bristow and faer twitter timeline five years ago, and it wouldn't have impressed me much.

I'm kind of low-hanging lentil-weaving fruit. If the Green Party can't get me and my müesli stash on side, then it won't play with the more centrist among us.

FemaleAndLearning · 30/12/2020 20:51

Is this true that black and white people have different nail strength? Not sure if Kathryn is asking or assuming?

I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more" says Green Party Women's leader
ColourMagic · 30/12/2020 20:48

@Cailleach1
"Are they hawking their business then? Promoting cross sex hormones to possible clients?
Is selling cross sex hormones like that still legal in the UK?"

GenderGP is the front for Helen Webberley, the UK GP who has been suspended by the GMC. GenderGP sells puberty blockers and cross sex hormones to youngsters online, operating from Spain.

The new Green Party Women's Group co chair Kathryn Bristow works for GenderGP (possibly freelance). So Bristow is not a neutral voice when publicly enthusing about cross sex hormones.

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GenderGP 2018:
' The GP prosecuted for failing to register her online advice services for transgender patients with a health regulator in Wales says she has moved her service to England.

But Helen Webberley admits she has still not registered with inspectors there either.

She was fined £12,000 by a district judge who called the offence "serious".

Her company was also fined for failing to register with Healthcare Inspectorate Wales (HIW).

This is the first criminal conviction for the regulator.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46400184

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GenderGP 2019:
'A transgender teenager who took his own life was getting hormones from unregulated online doctors.

Jayden Lowe, 18, died after being told he would have to wait years for gender reassignment treatment on the NHS. He was paying £30 a month to receive testosterone in the post, an inquest into his death heard.

However, his mum Claire Lowe, 49, has now called for a second inquest after realising the teen received treatment from GenderGP, which operated without a licence between March 2017 and February 2018.

The firm is run by Mike and Helen Webberley, who have both since been suspended by the British Medical Council pending investigation. Mrs Webberley was fined £12,000 in December 2018 after she was found guilty of illegally providing healthcare services from her home.'

'..... Mr and Mrs Webberley are now reported to be moving to Spain to carry on the business.'

metro.co.uk/2019/06/30/trans-teen-took-life-getting-hormones-unregulated-online-clinic-10092786/

HermioneWeasley · 30/12/2020 20:40

Kathryn isn’t on HRT as nothing is being “replaced” for Kathryn.

Kathryn’s receding hairline is super feminine 😍😍😍😍