I love being on HRT so much, but being happy about it is just making me cry more" says Green Party Women's leader

Absurd, sexist bilge of the highest order, and it’s only possible to believe that if you’ve never had your life impacted by your female biology

Yup, it’s total male white privilege, right there. I’d like to see Nikki Ali make mincemeat of such statements. But Ms Ali has more important battles to fight, together with another of my sheroes, , Hibo Wardere. Young girls being mutilated can’t “identify” out of brutal FGM practices.

It's quite a sad and interesting insight really KB feel they can only fully recognise or express emotions now they present as a woman.

A psychologist's wet dream, but really very depressing.

I just can't understand how people don't see the sexism in the entire transgender movement. Its so obvious to me.

"I like 'girly' things so I'm a girl!" - how did this not get ridiculed off the Internet from day one?

The word gets far too much usage these days, and I hesitate to wheel it out now, but this nonsense about “rejecting sex as a concept” really is offensive.

Absurd, sexist bilge of the highest order, and it’s only possible to believe that if you’ve never had your life impacted by your female biology. Like a PP, I can easily be convinced by a good bit of lentil weaving, I’m borderline crunchy and have voted green in the past, but until they stop coming out with this absolute bumwash and get back to the environment, they won’t get my vote.

'Solo poly-amorous'?

Oh aye...

On Twitter it is alleged that we ageing Karen’s are jealous of the transwoman’s beauty

I succumbed to curiousity on seeing this and clicked the Twitter link. Well.

I shall refrain from making fae cry again, but 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I do wonder about the women who support these people. How can they see this level of rampant sexism and misogyny out in plain sight and be fine with it? There's definitely a frogs-being-boiled-in-an-echo-chamber component to it, (shut up, I like my metaphors like I like my strawberry daiquiris) but surely the handmaidens must have some shreds of self-respect screaming in their heads when they see this?

What on earth do they think it looks like? Serious political commentary on women's issues? Or a Very Important Subject beloved of Jackie circa 1972.

With environmental issues very topical, and something that concerns most people, you would think a political party representing them would be harnessing the Zeitgeist, not expelling supporters because they don't want to talk about sparkly nail varnish, ffs.

TG was also known for having shaved off her eyebrows and advocating for the castration of rapists. She was described as a maverick. She had her faults and was less than honest about her property dealings, but she did stick up for women and the self employed.

Head tilt is to hide the Adam's apple.
He looks like Moss from the IT crowd.

She was advocating for women. She was furious that so many women were suffering awful menopausal symptoms and osteoporosis and getting no help or support whatsoever.

Quite.

A political interest in the issues massively affecting 50% of voters, a willingness to talk about those political issues seen as a bit yucky and explain why they mattered and how this represented inequality and impact, a use of her own platform to further awareness for other women.

Not using her platform to talk about her nails and how lovely a bit of an HTR cry is, or giving the appearance that the start and end of her political career is the wonder of self or a protected characteristic. If you're going to take a political seat from females, either help or get the fuck out of the way. Or have TW seats and get voted in on your lovely nails and personal emotional experiences.

Perhaps Kathryn would like to turn faer attention to how pandemic measures disproportionately affect women with caring responsibilities, if fae's on mumsnet?

The Green Party are now completely pointless IMO.

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Shame the Green Party didn't see fit to make a woman like Gorman head of Green Party Women.

My sentiment entirely.

It's long before the days of tweeting but Teresa Gorman, who was then the Tory MP for Billericay, was publicly extolling the virtues of HRT back in the 1980s!

Oh, that's interesting. I wasn't familiar with Teresa Gorman.

From what PPs have said, it sounds as though Gorman was using her position to advocate for higher awareness and availability of HRT. This seems to me like it was related to a specific attempt to help women's health.

It doesn't sound as though Gorman was using her platform to talk about how oestrogen made her weepy and in-touch with emotions.

On Twitter it is alleged that we ageing Karen’s are jealous of the transwoman’s beauty

I haven't even seen this person's picture but I love it when the gender mob uses that ageist and sexist line. It's so vacuous but very revealing.

Sadly for Fae the fairy, eco glitter is as bad for the environment.

🤷🏻‍♀️

Nails - micro plastics as far as I can tell. Esp with sparkly bits.

What an embarrassment to the GP.

I discussed this thread and the original tweet last night with DH because he asked why I’d exclaimed “oh for fucks sake.” He was equally offended by the idea that men can’t and don’t feel emotions. He cried when our friend died of cancer. I’ve seem him cry at various points in our 25+ year relationship and we’ve raised boys who can also express their feelings. My late father was very open and I saw him cry on numerous occasions. It’s such reductive stereotyped bullshit and as offensive to men as it is to women. As others have also pointed out, this is cross-sex hormone therapy not HRT. How can this individual claim to represent women in the Green Party when they have so little understanding of (or, seemingly, interest) in women’s lived experiences and needs? Women are crying out for decent political representation. We don’t need our roles taken up by attention-seeking [fill in the blank] who see the role as instrumental in their validation. It’s infuriating.

Seriously? Tweeting about nails in a pandemic?

Jeeze the narcissism.

I think I might have some jealousy for the young. The epic naïveté mostly. Kat’s Twitter and blog seem so, so young. Kat’s letter to JK Rowling no one with life experience, wider context, would have published.

On Twitter it is alleged that we ageing Karen’s are jealous of the transwoman’s beauty

I try very hard not to make comments about people’s appearance, i hold my tongue and try and be careful about phrasing if i have to mention anything,

But honestly 😀😀😀😀😀 how the fuck am I supposed to read that comment with a straight face?

Yeah, im jealous....soooooo jealous

I don’t know the carbon footprint of painted nails, but I must confess to liking sparkly. Kat’s nails looked lovely. Kat painted them on the 24th and they looked good on the 30th.

During that period I have wrapped presents, unblocked drains and gutters (epic rain). Helped a neighbour with a fence (gales). Played with Lego. Made lots of food and done lots of washing up. Cleaned toilets, pet food containers and everything else... my hands have been extremely useful.

On Twitter it is alleged that we ageing Karen’s are jealous of the transwoman’s beauty. I’m not sure jealous is the right word. Astonishment?
At the amount of free time and lack of responsibility of someone who is supposed to be an adult?