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Erasure of 'mother' in Breastfeeding groups

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OhHolyJesus · 29/12/2020 09:16

It's something I've noticed since the LA Leche League did it with 'nursing parent' and since SANDS called mothers 'birthing parents' but more and more breastfeeding networks appear to be doing it.

In the comments I've noticed most women rejecting the term and maybe just 5 women saying they appreciate the 'inclusivity' as they are gender queer or fluid or whatever.

I'm not surprised as such, I mean it's a female dominated space so of course men want access and women will 'be kind' and let them in, I suppose I struggle more with the mothers who have had elective mastectomies or have breasts and can breastfeed but don't consider themselves mothers, if they need help to breastfeed why would the language around breastfeeding as a whole need to change for them, they can still get help as breastfeeding mothers.

I realise it's for the few not the many but I'm struggling to understand why those running the groups do it and kick out the women who just want to use the word mother? It's our word, others get to use their words, why can't we have mother?

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DaisiesandButtercups · 29/12/2020 10:12

In my experience the push is coming entirely from women who are keen to be seen to be kind, inclusive and “modern”.

LolaSmiles · 29/12/2020 10:00

Soontobe60
Then the solution would be to talk about mothers and birthing parents, or breastfeeding mothers and parents who chestfeed. There's ways to be inclusive of trans men that don't involve erasing breastfeeding/motherhood, and I'd be willing to bet that this push isn't coming from trans men.

DfEisashambles · 29/12/2020 10:00

@Soontobe60

Thank you for explaining and being patient.

I think erasing the word ‘mother’ is so very wrong.

Soontobe60 · 29/12/2020 09:57

@DfEisashambles

I’m new to all this I’m sorry in advance. So if breastfeeding groups is extended to people who cannot breastfeed, what do they actually do in the group? How are they included in something they cannot physically do?
Some transmen who have not had any surgery could still potentially breastfeed, but as they see themselves as men, would object to being called mothers. They also object to the term ‘breastfeeding’ and use ‘chestfeeding’ instead.
DfEisashambles · 29/12/2020 09:45

I’m new to all this I’m sorry in advance. So if breastfeeding groups is extended to people who cannot breastfeed, what do they actually do in the group? How are they included in something they cannot physically do?

highame · 29/12/2020 09:34

@Babdoc

If the woke community can insist on preferred pronouns, maybe it’s time the feminist community insisted on preferred nouns. Mine are “mother” “woman” and “doctor”.
Absolutely
Babdoc · 29/12/2020 09:32

If the woke community can insist on preferred pronouns, maybe it’s time the feminist community insisted on preferred nouns. Mine are “mother” “woman” and “doctor”.

Hardbackwriter · 29/12/2020 09:32

I saw a person I know who is very, very woke refer to a new mother (in the context of what present to buy for one) as a 'pushing person' recently - maybe I'm sensitive because I'm heavily pregnant and not having a great time, but it made me so cross. It feels so dismissive of what pregnancy and birth actually means for women, and as my friend said if you call new mothers 'pushing people' what do you call women who gave birth through caesarean?!

RememberSelfCompassion · 29/12/2020 09:25

I think its really sad. Having my first baby being "mother " was a huge part of my identity. I think we're devaluing the work of mother with the teminology. Erasure. :( .

Its more than just being cool. Its targeted erasure.

MichelleScarn · 29/12/2020 09:20

In all honesty? My opinion is its because they want to be seen as 'cool and with it,' which I think a lot of this boils down to!

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