Birthing People

Can’t find the post. Doesn’t seem to be on their fb page.

The policy is fine though. Women is used first, and is the default.

I would interpret that poster as meaning that the woman and her helper are both meant to be mobile!

The Trust where I gave birth is now using 'women and birthing people', which I'm fairly OK with all things considered. Not happy when 'women' or 'mother' gets erased though. Maybe contact them and suggest 'women and birthing people'?

Not a clue what a birthing people are

It’s just idiots dehumanising women.

How dare they be so rude

Disgusting, dehumanising language.

My FEMALE body went through pregnancy and birth.

I scribble out gender and write sex on every single paper form I have to fill in.
If it is online, I tick " prefer not to say". If there is a comments section I write a strongly worded comment.
This infuriates me.
I was a midwife for many years.
I worked in medical research for even more years.
Sex is very, very important.

I really hope this doesn’t catch on in other units. It makes me so angry- I’m currently arguing with management about the word gender instead of sex in relation to newborn babies

Surely they have no way of knowing the gender of a baby until it is old enough to be asked? (Or unbutton its babygro as a non verbal signal 🙄) - the only aspect they can reliably observe is the sex of the baby.

Even the current consultation about extending the home abortion provisions when (if) the pandemic ends, refers to "people" who are pregnant.

If the Government is talking like this, is it any wonder other bureaucracies follow?

Despite Liz Truss saying the woke agenda shouldn't be allowed to dominate.

And always carry a sharpie on your handbag. I once has a twofor in a uni ladies loo - a poster ;offering free tampons to students) referred to ‘people who menstruate’ and had a calculation of how much you could spend on tampons a year (and the maths was completely wrong). Both issues boiled my piss...

Complain. Ask exactly how many ‘birthing people’ they have ever has through their doors who weren’t a woman or girl?

I really hope this doesn’t catch on in other units. It makes me so angry- I’m currently arguing with management about the word gender instead of sex in relation to newborn babies! Our software asks for gender ffs. Social services also ask for gender of unborn child?! I’m beginning to get into disagreements as I just won’t accept this bullshit creeping into our language.
Midwife indeed means ‘ with woman’ only women give birth. We cannot let this language take our experiences away.

A birthing body makes me just think of some poor creature tied up somewhere being used as a baby machine. Just apparatus really. So insensitive to the process and to the women. Where will it end? I don’t think this is about offending trans men. In the grand scheme of things how many women give birth every week and what is the tiny tiny percentage that are trans men? I think this just pisses off the Tras who think they are mouth pieces for trans people.

OhHolyJesus

It did bring us the clear voice of Karen David indeed!!

I am so glad the correct meaning of the word " midwife" has been pointed out. It is such an important and fundamental meaning.
So many people get it wrong, even on mumsnet, of all places.

I had a male midwife, which was fine and I asked him what you call a male midwife.
He told me “midwife” means “ with woman”
So if that’s the case how can an individual who does not identify as a woman have a midwife?

I think it was black birthing bodies Wine, as discussed here

Wasn't Cornwall one of the tests that had the trans inclusive admission politicise that didn't get an equality impact assessment done prior to the change?

I thought it couldn't get worse than vulva people. I was wrong

Well, a couple of months ago, a US organization posted about black birthing people. Not sure it can get much lower than that to be honest.

I thought it couldn't get worse than vulva people. I was wrong

It's getting ridiculous now.

I am not a birthing person.
I am not a person who bleeds.

I am a WOMAN, and I don't want my identifying label to be stamped out.

Is this on their Facebook, I can't see it?

I've never posted on these threads before, but "birthing people" is my absolute limit. I've recently seen two local social media profiles - a sling library and my lovely hypnobirthing teacher - use "birthing people" instead of (not in addition to) "women". I hate it, it's offensive and alienating.