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Frankie Boyle

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zanahoria · 28/12/2020 10:29

"Frankie has had many controversies in his career, including making jokes about the Queen and people with disabilities. Frankie says that it’s every comedian’s job, to different degrees, to, “take things that people would normally find offensive and make them funny.”

"Frankie does not have positive words to say about Ricky Gervais as a stand-up comedian. “If you’re a stand-up watching him, you feel like, ‘oh, that’s someone doing a version of what we do,’” he says. “But really, it’s that I saw him doing his routine about trans people and I thought it was very lazy [in a 2018 Netflix special, Gervais did a routine about Caitlyn Jenner and trans identity]. I would like him to have the same respect for trans people as he seems to have for animals. I don’t think that’s a lot to ask.”

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/213C6kKb0L1cBssQd482m4N/frankie-boyle-10-things-we-learned-when-he-spoke-to-louis-theroux

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Melroses · 28/12/2020 21:09

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

knows which side his bread is buttered innit?

like the lamentable sarah pascoe. gotta embrace the religion to get the BBC deals these days

The BBC gets the comedians it deserves.
AnyFucker · 28/12/2020 21:09

Brave and boundary pushing people do not block right to reply

Pitiful

kwiksavenofrillsusername · 28/12/2020 20:05

@BraveBananaBadge

Also, uses block lists on Twitter to avoid people (women) who have absolutely no interest in him in the first place
One of the things that bugs me the most about him is that he blathers on about right to offend etc, but he's so cowardly on Twitter that he's turned off replies to all his statuses. So you can't comment on them. Probably because he knows half the comments would be his fanboys posting edgy shit and the other half would be people reminding him of the terrible things he's said.
JohnMcClane · 28/12/2020 19:36

I don't think Frankie and I would hit it off somehow

Grin
LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 28/12/2020 19:30

The thing is, RG isn't even making jokes about trans people, he's just showing trans on screen. There's a scene in After Life where they go and interview a fat bearded middle aged man who's insisting he's a 13 year old girl... there's an eye roll between the characters iirc but the 'joke' is that this is actually happening, irl.

I always think RG must be OK because he's with Jane Fallon and I luffs her.

Passmeabottlemrjones · 28/12/2020 19:15

This is not it, this is just straightforward vicious abuse aimed at hurting a woman by saying the worst thing he possibly could.

Yep.

I was horrified and livid at the time he made those jokes about Harvey Price, and about the 2012 female athletes. I am feeling those emotions all over again now, but this time he has the fucking nerve to slag off another comedian for not being 'kind' enough?

Fuck off Frankie.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 28/12/2020 19:15

knows which side his bread is buttered innit?

like the lamentable sarah pascoe. gotta embrace the religion to get the BBC deals these days

HecatesCats · 28/12/2020 19:14

But if you look at the end result, his 'advocacy' amounts to attacking women. So maybe - entirely in character?

Yes, and he's not the only established misogynist for whom trans right is a brilliant fit.

ArabellaScott · 28/12/2020 19:09

Well, let's be fair, he's obviously had a hard life and probably struggles with various issues.

As a rich white male, it must be hard to maintain the edginess required to back up his personal brand.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/frankie-boyles-firm-raked-16m-23155172

WhereYouLeftIt · 28/12/2020 18:54

@HecatesCats

It's this current atmosphere of the aggressive transgender rights agenda that is worrying me. Its sinister, how some have set themselves up as transgender advocates when it is entirely out of character.

Frankie Boyle lets us know who the really vulnerable people in society are by going after them with his vitriolic jokes. In many cases they can't answer back, or won't be listened to or taken seriously if they do. His reverence for the trans orthodoxy betrays a fear of being targeted by people/organisations who would have the power to damage his career.

Spot on, both of you.

It is indeed "entirely out of character" for Boyle to be anyone's advocate. But if you look at the end result, his 'advocacy' amounts to attacking women. So maybe - entirely in character? I wonder if people were starting to see through him so he felt he had to mask his bile a bit?

And yes, he clearly prefers to 'punch down' onto the weaker whilst tugging his forelock to those who he fears can damage his career.

Didn't he withdraw from the circuit for a bit, ostensibly to write a book? I wonder if a timeline could be put together, showing whether his hiatus had any correspondence with the few trans jokes he'd made?

HecatesCats · 28/12/2020 18:11

I like dark humour, edgy humour, black humour, satire. Even the kind that makes you have a sharp intake of breath, sometimes. This is not it, this is just straightforward vicious abuse aimed at hurting a woman by saying the worst thing he possibly could.

Fully agree with this.

AnyFucker · 28/12/2020 18:09

AnyfuckerI love your n nonsense straight talking, never change

I don't think Frankie and I would hit it off somehow

ArabellaScott · 28/12/2020 17:57

'humour targeted at a child's expense, especially when the child is "as young as eight years old, and has a number of disabilities which are specifically focused on as the target of that intended humour".

The jokes appeared to "directly target and mock the mental and physical disabilities of a known eight-year-old child who had not himself chosen to be in the public eye", it said.

It added: "Frankie Boyle's comments appeared to derive humour by demeaning the physical and mental disabilities of a known eight-year-old child."'

I mean, I would quibble that it was in any way, shape or form humorous or funny to suggest that someone's child would try and rape them because of their disabilities.

I like dark humour, edgy humour, black humour, satire. Even the kind that makes you have a sharp intake of breath, sometimes. This is not it, this is just straightforward vicious abuse aimed at hurting a woman by saying the worst thing he possibly could.

Impatiens · 28/12/2020 17:54

Such a hypocrite, dishes it out but can't take it, pretends to want discussion but won't entertain any opposing view. He probably got all the mileage he can out of making sick jokes about the disabled (eg Harvey Price) so perhaps he's decided to jump on the trans bandwagon?

Either that or he's got some skin in the game but isn't honest enough to say so. Just another beardy bloke waving his male priviledge around.

laudemio · 28/12/2020 17:52

Oh sorry I meant 'who he' as in he is a nobody, inconsequential. He is not funny, or even good looking so I don't know why he gets any airtime at all.

But thank you for the answers, they did make me smile 😃

HecatesCats · 28/12/2020 17:49

He was using a disabled child to target his mother with venomous abuse, not to abuse the child or disability per se

I think he managed to do all of the above. Which is nice.

JohnMcClane · 28/12/2020 17:47

His childhood sounds bleak.

Sick of losers making careers out of their mummy issues.

@Anyfucker I love your n nonsense straight talking, never change Smile

HermioneWeasley · 28/12/2020 17:45

He’s a disgusting little man

AnyFucker · 28/12/2020 17:22

No excuse

Neolara · 28/12/2020 16:57

Has anyone listened to his interview with Louis Theroux? I thought it was pretty interesting. His childhood sounds bleak.

AnyFucker · 28/12/2020 16:41

He's a washed-up nob jockey

Saucery · 28/12/2020 16:41

No doubt it amuses him greatly to have woke female comedians like Sarah Pascoe and Katie Ruffle fawning over him because of his stance on transwomen.

BraveBananaBadge · 28/12/2020 16:37

Also, uses block lists on Twitter to avoid people (women) who have absolutely no interest in him in the first place

ArabellaScott · 28/12/2020 16:33

@laudemio

Francie Boyle? Who he?
He was a comedian, from Glasgow, who made a name for 'shock jock' type of patter, saying the unmentionable, etc. Latterly has been hired for political articles by the Guardian.
GivesNoFox · 28/12/2020 16:31

I remember one trans joke Boyle made on 'Mock the week' years ago, the punchline was still at the expense of actual women though.

It went something like:

'Did you hear about the bloke who went to court to advocate for his own sex change? He won and had all the surgeries to look female. Now he regrets it and wants all of them reversed!

Typical woman, can't make up her mind one way or the other!'

I'm paraphrasing but it was some shite like that.

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