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Frankie Boyle

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zanahoria · 28/12/2020 10:29

"Frankie has had many controversies in his career, including making jokes about the Queen and people with disabilities. Frankie says that it’s every comedian’s job, to different degrees, to, “take things that people would normally find offensive and make them funny.”

"Frankie does not have positive words to say about Ricky Gervais as a stand-up comedian. “If you’re a stand-up watching him, you feel like, ‘oh, that’s someone doing a version of what we do,’” he says. “But really, it’s that I saw him doing his routine about trans people and I thought it was very lazy [in a 2018 Netflix special, Gervais did a routine about Caitlyn Jenner and trans identity]. I would like him to have the same respect for trans people as he seems to have for animals. I don’t think that’s a lot to ask.”

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/213C6kKb0L1cBssQd482m4N/frankie-boyle-10-things-we-learned-when-he-spoke-to-louis-theroux

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ArabellaScott · 29/12/2020 16:13

'Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them'.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 29/12/2020 16:11

There is something intrinsically ridiculous about a person fooling themselves.

dyslek · 29/12/2020 15:53

@rabbitwoman

Sounds like a huge derailing segwey..... But bear with me..... this strikes me:

I was watching the awfully sad documentary about Lindy Chamberlain, who was put in jail for murdering her baby daughter when actually the poor little soul was eaten by a dingo. Lindy seems like an extraordinary and very strong woman and you know what? She COLLECTS jokes about dingos.

Should Ricky or frankie make a joje about her - she would add it to her collection. She does not need protection from nasty, cruel jokes; possibly Katie price doesn't either. Or kids with down syndrome, or cancer patients - there are some things that we consider cannot be joked about because of poor taste-- but I have seen stand up routines on the holocaust, on slavery, child abuse....... Humour is something we all use to cope with some of the worst situations life can foist upon us.

WHAT is it with transgender rights, then? Why so untouchable?

Because its about the sacred right of men to dominate women. And men dont like that laughed at.
rabbitwoman · 29/12/2020 15:52

I feel at the heart of this transgender agender there is something that someone does not want scrutinised, someone or some organisation or some shadowy body of people does not want anyone thinking too hard about exactly what is happening.....

rabbitwoman · 29/12/2020 15:50

Sounds like a huge derailing segwey..... But bear with me..... this strikes me:

I was watching the awfully sad documentary about Lindy Chamberlain, who was put in jail for murdering her baby daughter when actually the poor little soul was eaten by a dingo. Lindy seems like an extraordinary and very strong woman and you know what? She COLLECTS jokes about dingos.

Should Ricky or frankie make a joje about her - she would add it to her collection. She does not need protection from nasty, cruel jokes; possibly Katie price doesn't either. Or kids with down syndrome, or cancer patients - there are some things that we consider cannot be joked about because of poor taste-- but I have seen stand up routines on the holocaust, on slavery, child abuse....... Humour is something we all use to cope with some of the worst situations life can foist upon us.

WHAT is it with transgender rights, then? Why so untouchable?

TheMarzipanDildo · 29/12/2020 15:36

Boyles humour has never particularly bothered me, and I find a lot of his jokes funny. But why tf is he criticising Ricky Gervais for doing exactly what he does?

PearPickingPorky · 29/12/2020 15:33

We know Frankie Boyle doesn't think transwomen are women because he thinks women are fair game for the most violent, sexually violent, and abusive and nasty "jokes", and transwomen should be a protected caste that nobody can say anything about.

He is purely using this as another way to abuse women in plain sight.

WeeBisom · 29/12/2020 15:10

Haha, Ricky Gervais saying "I look down on everyone equally.' This is the thing. You can't accuse Ricky of being a hypocrite or singling people out for special consideration. I remember in one of his stand up routines he said something like people were happy to laugh at AIDS jokes, but gasped in horror when he started to tell cancer jokes - the point is that everyone is going to find different things offensive. Sure, Ricky tells jokes about Caitlin Jenner but he tells jokes about everybody. In the case of Frankie Boyle, who certainly hasn't shied away from controversial shock comedy, I'm wondering why he's decided this particular demographic of people are being treated like a sacred caste and can't be joked about - it's almost like blasphemy. He can't go with the 'punching down' excuse, because he insults disabled kids and women!

FannyCann · 29/12/2020 14:57

He is the king of the incels

And that is part of the problem - surely this type of humour encourages casual misogyny and cruelty. It's actively harmful.

dyslek · 29/12/2020 14:57

Frankie Boyle is a tax dodger. When someone pointed out how incongrous this was with his left wing politics he blathered something about how it was ok that he did not pay tax as he was not supporting millitarism. Total bullshit.
He is a self serving none entity, woman haters come ten to the dime.

PlantMam · 29/12/2020 14:34

Yeah. Let’s see him do some kind of charitable fundraiser for autistic kiddies or something, before declaring him a changed man, eh, Bethany?

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 29/12/2020 14:30

He just hates women.
He is the king of the incels.

MondayYogurt · 29/12/2020 14:28

It's a great get out of jail free card. Do what you want, hurt whoever you want - and then just punt out a "trans rights" now and then for full absolution.

SunsetBeetch · 29/12/2020 13:16

Hmn....

twitter.com/BeffernieBlack/status/1343874915519373312?s=20

Frankie Boyle
Frankie Boyle
BuntingEllacott · 29/12/2020 13:03

I have no desire to investigate, but Boyle's previous jokes about transvestites and women, and his vociferous reaction to the cardinal sin of transphobia, suggests a chaser to me.

SunsetBeetch · 29/12/2020 12:47

Ricky:

"I look down on everyone equally."

twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1343592075112153088?s=20

ToastieSnowy · 29/12/2020 12:47

I remember Frankie Boyle appearing on the comedy scene years ago and found him shockingly funny. Then watched with utter horror and disgust him launching into Katie Price & her son. There is no excuse for that behaviour. None. I haven’t been able to watch him since that day.

And Katie, if you’re on here, we’ll done for being able to handle that depth of shite.

SunsetBeetch · 29/12/2020 12:42

@Walkingtheplank

https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1343879765036564481?s=09

I like Andrew Lawrence's take on this.

Perfection.
ErrolTheDragon · 29/12/2020 12:31

@Walkingtheplank

https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1343879765036564481?s=09

I like Andrew Lawrence's take on this.

About the only thing wrong in that was '...at the expense of my own personal integrity', because I'm not convinced FB had any of that to spend.
HecatesCats · 29/12/2020 12:26

That's hilarious 👏🏻

Walkingtheplank · 29/12/2020 12:22

twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1343879765036564481?s=09

I like Andrew Lawrence's take on this.

allmywhat · 29/12/2020 12:08

I guess Boyle's gross misogynist vileness is enough explanation on its own for his transactivism. Why wouldn't he gravitate to the opportunity to bully women even more? And then as others have mentioned, there's naked careerism and the opportunity to brown-nose the powerful while pretending to be edgy.

So in a way Boyle's switch to transactivism was already overdetermined and there's no need to invoke a further explanation? Still though, for some reason he makes me think about all the male TRAs who've turned out to have a deeply personal interest in dismantling safeguarding rules.

HecatesCats · 29/12/2020 12:05

The zealots ALWAYS have a closet full of transphobic comments, don't they? It's so predictable.

JupiterMoon · 29/12/2020 12:04

There’s a fundamental difference between Jervais and Boyle that I think absolutely dictates where Boyle has decided to draw a line in terms of his offensiveness schtick. I think it may be down to the fact that I think Boyle is the parent of a teenager. It doesn’t hold him back from his apparent misogyny (rape crowbar FFS?!) but I think it may have dictated his stepping back from ‘going there’ with regard to this demographic. I mean if you’re prepared to do rape jokes, take the piss out of the disabled and children with Down’s syndrome surely you can also ‘justify’ jokes on other ‘sensitive issues’? No?

I’m someone that used to find him funny and ‘forgave’ him some of his transgressions but I guess I’ve grown up and lived life and learnt. I can still laugh at Jervais because I see more intelligence and obvious writing talent there. Boyle seems very one dimensional and stuck in a 90s comedic rut (albeit with the obvious self-censorship on a certain issue)

I’m sure a lot of transgender people find him unfunny too.

SunsetBeetch · 29/12/2020 11:59

Homophobia.

(Someone posted this to Pink News. Will they care? Will they shite.)

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