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Frankie Boyle

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zanahoria · 28/12/2020 10:29

"Frankie has had many controversies in his career, including making jokes about the Queen and people with disabilities. Frankie says that it’s every comedian’s job, to different degrees, to, “take things that people would normally find offensive and make them funny.”

"Frankie does not have positive words to say about Ricky Gervais as a stand-up comedian. “If you’re a stand-up watching him, you feel like, ‘oh, that’s someone doing a version of what we do,’” he says. “But really, it’s that I saw him doing his routine about trans people and I thought it was very lazy [in a 2018 Netflix special, Gervais did a routine about Caitlyn Jenner and trans identity]. I would like him to have the same respect for trans people as he seems to have for animals. I don’t think that’s a lot to ask.”

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/213C6kKb0L1cBssQd482m4N/frankie-boyle-10-things-we-learned-when-he-spoke-to-louis-theroux

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HecatesCats · 30/12/2020 01:41

*We are just women.

We don’t rape or murder men. Yet he still hates us* 🤷‍♀️

Maybe it's because he hates himself and that's somehow women's fault.
It usually is.

rabbitwoman · 30/12/2020 01:03

I was listening to a true crime podcast some time ago and the FBI profiler said there were two kinds of stress - distress, but also the opposite which is eustress

It's where everything is going right. It seems everyone is on your side. It makes you feel invincible, like you could get away with...... Anything. You might act very recklessly, outrageously under the influence of eustress.

He was talking about the case of Stephen Avery from making a murderer - how he'd been released from prison and was getting a huge payout and might have thought everything was going his way - but I nodded sagely and thought, o. That makes a lot of sense.

POP7777777 · 30/12/2020 00:37

littlbrowndog

Spot on.

littlbrowndog · 30/12/2020 00:35

I really don’t understand why men like Boyle hate us and our children so much

We just get on with our lives

It’s a bizarre thought that he wrote such things about Katie prices son and about women athletes

At what point do you think and sit down and think I will write this stuff about women and children

It’s really baffling

I mean to spend such time thinking such hateful things and then showing your horrible thoughts to the world

Mollyboom · 30/12/2020 00:08

Frankie Boyle hates women because he was an ugly nerdy boy at a comprehensive school where the girls all fancied sporty, tough guys. He now takes his revenge on those girls who scorned him by hating all women. He just has a very public forum to do it and because he spouts a bit of left wing tosh amongst it, the rest of the woke crowd love him. He makes my skin crawl.

FannyCann · 30/12/2020 00:01

I hope at least the couple walked out and demanded a refund at a minimum.

AverageContents · 29/12/2020 23:56

I wasn't there, but my friend was. She hadn't heard of him before, but went with a group. She was absolutely disgusted, btw.

AverageContents · 29/12/2020 23:55

Unfortunately everyone laughed.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/12/2020 23:45

Bloody hell, that's beneath contempt.

rabbitwoman · 29/12/2020 23:44

@AverageContents

Frankie Boyle was on stage telling some pathetic 'joke' about disabled people, and shouted at a couple, asking why they weren't laughing. They said their child had Downs Syndrome, and Boyle replied with "Don't worry, they don't live long".

Give me Ricky Gervais ANY DAY, over Boyle.

I mean, if that is true that is beyond disgusting. Beyond.....

What on earth did the audience do?

AverageContents · 29/12/2020 23:42

Frankie Boyle was on stage telling some pathetic 'joke' about disabled people, and shouted at a couple, asking why they weren't laughing. They said their child had Downs Syndrome, and Boyle replied with "Don't worry, they don't live long".

Give me Ricky Gervais ANY DAY, over Boyle.

FannyCann · 29/12/2020 23:37

@CousinKrispy It was me! So glad you enjoyed it. I need to seek out series one if it is available.
Happened to be late off work and caught it on the radio driving home. A brilliant mix of very funny tales and thoughtful reflection on life and luck and time. I shed a tear towards the end.

"I scroll backwards in time ... and there they all are ... they're laughing and joking ...but it hasn't happened yet ....there is a time code where they're all safe ...there's nothing but possibility.... that moment exists."

littlbrowndog · 29/12/2020 22:59

Or says such hateful things about our children

littlbrowndog · 29/12/2020 22:58

True he never makes jokes about male Olympic winners

The man hates women successful women or women in the public eye

I don’t get why a man would hate women so much as to say such dreadful things about us

We are just women.

We don’t rape or murder men. Yet he still hates us 🤷‍♀️

DieHardIsAXmasMovie · 29/12/2020 22:56

It's not about Katie Price though. She's an adult in the public eye, and she's able to verbally defend herself.

Harvey can't defend himself against the joke and never will be able to. He can't even understand the joke.

Boyle is a coward. He wouldn't even defend the joke to Katie's face.

Campervan69 · 29/12/2020 22:41

I think woke people are actually pretty judgemental and probably look down on Katie Price. So think she's fair game. There's a woke snobbery. Doubt she's a Guardian reader so wouldn't pass their purity test.

queenofknives · 29/12/2020 22:11

she asks Boyle several times to meet with Harvey so that Boyle can better understand Harvey's complex needs. Boyle doesn't even respond.

He is an absolute dick. I find it insane that he is lauded and loved by people as some kind of woke hero now. Are people just fucking stupid?

DieHardIsAXmasMovie · 29/12/2020 21:43

Katie Price made a documentary about that joke. It's very much worth a watch.

In it, she asks Boyle several times to meet with Harvey so that Boyle can better understand Harvey's complex needs. Boyle doesn't even respond.

Coward.

TheGoogleMum · 29/12/2020 18:49

I've never been a fan of Ricky Gervais but it strikes as an extremely hypocritical criticism from Frankie Boyle!

AnyFucker · 29/12/2020 18:09

Katie Price was not ok with the "jokes" about Harvey

yourhairiswinterfire · 29/12/2020 17:55

JKR: "Biological sex exists, it's meaningful to a lot of women and anyone same sex attracted."

TRAs spend months and months relentlessly detailing the sick shit they're going to do to her, they're going to kill her, they get a RIP hashtag trending and pretend they mean RIP her career, not her.

Boyle: Uses actual transphobic slurs, jokes about rape, disabled children etc. Unlike with JKR, the evidence of this is out there for all to see.

TRAS: Well that was ages ago, and people do change (apart from 12 year old children who think they're in the wrong body though, they'll never change their minds in the future. Never ever.)

Wonder what it could be about transactivism that attracts so many misogynists...a real mystery why such men would be drawn to their cause 🤔

CousinKrispy · 29/12/2020 17:07

Ok many thanks to whoever on here recommended comedian Sarah Kendall (currently has a three-parter available on BBC Sounds). I'm halfway through the first episode going back and forth between sobbing and laughing my head off, which is down to Sarah's talent and not my womanly hormones (as FB would probably try to claim). She is f'in hilarious!!

Doyoumind · 29/12/2020 16:45

Well, I would say Bethany is part of the context. To get work he needed a new found wokeness as his style of comedy was no longer in favour. How better to prove your rehabilitation and show you aren't transphobic than to work with someone who is trans? Rather cynical.

SunsetBeetch · 29/12/2020 16:21

@PlantMam

Yeah. Let’s see him do some kind of charitable fundraiser for autistic kiddies or something, before declaring him a changed man, eh, Bethany?
Bethany seems to be very much on the TRA side of things: people want to debate her existence and take her rights away, the BBC is terribly transphobic - that sort of thing..
StandWithYou · 29/12/2020 16:20

Good humour makes you think about an issue in a different way as you laugh especially if you aren’t sure whether you should laugh or not. What jokes could you make about transgender ideology without it causing someone to start to think about it and then questioning it? The whole edifice would then start to come down.

I listened to part of the podcast and it was interesting. I found his comments about why can’t RG be a bit nicer very ironic though. He talked about the context of jokes and how the newspapers printed them for shock value without looking at the context. I thought back to when I first heard the joke about Katie Price and her child. It is similar to the jokes about the female Olympians. They weren’t funny, there was nothing there to make me think about the issue. I just felt sick and there is no context that would ever make them funny. Has he ever made similar comments about Mo Farah, the male rowers or Anthony Joshua? I wonder why?