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James O'Brien 'How not to be Wrong'

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notassigned · 25/12/2020 09:23

Includes a chapter on trans. The very first page includes the assumption that women like us don't want trans-identifying people to have the same rights as every other human.

I certainly believe that trans people should have all the same rights that I do. I don't believe I have rights to enter sports, prisons, toilets etc designated for the opposite sex.

James O'Brien 'How not to be Wrong'
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ChristmasBubble · 25/12/2020 11:22

He's an arrogant arse and none of what he's written represents my view.

nothereoften · 25/12/2020 11:01

@midgebabe has put it across very well

BeepBoopBop · 25/12/2020 10:54

He is an ex-show biz journo who thinks his lucky break is to do with talent. Breathtakingly arrogant, listening to his his constant over-speaking, point-scoring and belittling is like being in an abusive relationship. He is just a hectoring, smart arse bully, probably sporting a micro-penis.

Hollybutnoivy · 25/12/2020 10:49

I certainly believe that trans people should have all the same rights that I do.
Me too. In fact I think most of us could comfortably put ourselves into his first group - but he doesn't want to see that.

MealyPotatoes · 25/12/2020 10:47

Oh great... I just bought this for my partner for Christmas and we already disagree on this subject. He’s totally a woke bloke. This is only going to solidify his views.

Floisme · 25/12/2020 10:47

What midge said. Not that O'Brien will be listening - he doesn't seem to know the difference between a conversation and a competition.

NonnyMouse1337 · 25/12/2020 10:43

There's nothing progressive or clever about evolutionary denialism, which is what denial of the two sexes actually is.

Trans people deserve human rights like anyone else, and fortunately in the UK, they do have them.

CrossPurposes · 25/12/2020 10:33

We have a binary view of sex but that's also biology. The conflation of sex and gender isn't helping any of us, is it?

EdgeOfACoin · 25/12/2020 10:13

He doesn't have a clue.

He thinks he's really clever on the subject of Brexit as well. He isn't. (And I say that as someone who voted Remain.)

It's a shame - for some reason I thought he would take the time to look at the issues. I was wrong...

testing987654321 · 25/12/2020 10:12

It's frustratingly having to constantly defend ourselves against things we never said. Of course trans humans should have all human rights, being human and all.

And what midgebabe said.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/12/2020 09:33

Well put, midge.

ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 25/12/2020 09:32

Also surely it’s transgender and woke people who have a very binary view of gender, otherwise why would people need to transition?

midgebabe · 25/12/2020 09:29

Women want trans people to have all human rights

And extra trans specific rights because they need them

Happy also for transmen to retain their sex based women's rights ( they don't have to avail themselves of them)

Not happy if transwomen who are biologically male want to claim female sex based rights

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