James O'Brien 'How not to be Wrong'

I feel very sorry for his wife but I guess she knew what she was getting herself into, his daughters however are stuck with him.

So he's heterosexual.

Someone needs to ask him : if he wasn't married, or if his wife left him, would he consider a relationship with a transwoman (with a penis, as most of them do)? If not, why not? Is he transphobic?

He's something of a bully who made GC comments about Transwomen and fell foul of their lobby who attacked him. He shat himself and apologised, changing his tune very quickly.
He reminded me of somebody who found themselves on thin cracking ice in the middle of a lake and quickly made his way to the shore. He's not ventured out from the shore ever since

@2020wumben

He had Piers Morgan on his podcast and they discussed how he could understand how a woman wouldn't want a penis in a changing room/ toilet, that was perfectly understandable but then his friend Paris Lees said this would mean genital checks () on entry which he doesn't agree with. Tbf I don't think anyone would agree to that but he asked PM what he suggested would be a resolution and PM was like I don't know, I don't have an answer.

So the usual it's all brought back to changing rooms and toilets, nothing about safeguarding for both women and children. Would be good to see him engage with someone who knows the issues in a bit more detail.

They just don't get it, because they are arrogant arseholes.

And what queenofknives said. Obvs.

Interesting not really that he doesn’t want to talk about transgender issues women’s rights but then we don’t count then says he has to for three reasons:

Is it because:
a ) he’s a misogynist
b ) knows that allowing men to become women destroys women’s rights and women as a political, biological, economic and social class
c ) think men should be given a free pass to undress alongside girls?

All three?

Not a good look for someone who is always right.

My non woke, but still doesn’t quite get it DH was introduced to Titania McGrath’s book - a very refreshing reaction from him.

What a fucking wanker

He had Piers Morgan on his podcast and they discussed how he could understand how a woman wouldn't want a penis in a changing room/ toilet, that was perfectly understandable but then his friend Paris Lees said this would mean genital checks () on entry which he doesn't agree with. Tbf I don't think anyone would agree to that but he asked PM what he suggested would be a resolution and PM was like I don't know, I don't have an answer.

So the usual it's all brought back to changing rooms and toilets, nothing about safeguarding for both women and children. Would be good to see him engage with someone who knows the issues in a bit more detail.

I used to wonder why some people don't see that current tra means that women and girls don't get to have space (both physical and the right to organise) away from male people.

After talking to lots of tra and their supporters, I now realise that they don't believe that women have the right to our own space.

Maybe that's O'Brien position too?

Can't stand him. Patronising sexist man.

For a book on how not to be wrong, he's off to a bad start.

Surely the title of the work suggests an implicit sense of arrogant self righteousness ?

I would suggest that in order for JOB not to be wrong, it would require not opening his mouth.

I feel very sorry for his wife but I guess she knew what she was getting herself into, his daughters however are stuck with him.

He's just another woke fool who thinks he knows it all and fails to understand any of it.

'He is just a hectoring, smart arse bully, probably sporting a micro-penis.'

Perfect description!

Hes a total plum and as others have said, nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. He is so wrong on the trans issue. He was VILE to Posie Parker when she phoned his show about the issue of feeling uncomfortable with men in women's changing rooms - actually asked her 'what is it you think I'm going to do to you?'. Let all of his misogyny hang out for everyone to see. Oops

Is this the guy who's a DJ?

Im not sure that the opinions of DJs are generally held to carry that much weight.

James O Brien lacks critical thinking skills.
He’s not as clever as he thinks he is

'Having the same rights' doesn't mean everyone can park in a blue badge space. 'Having the same rights' doesn't mean males can compete in female competitions.

It continues to amaze me that everyone who argues against the gender critical position invariably misunderstands it. Guess it must feel the same on the other side of the equation because it all revolves around whether you consider men are women or not. If you believe they are, you’re on one side. So JOB here thinks we want to deny men the same rights women have, and sees that as unfair as he thinks they are women.

An honest appraisal of our position is that we believe men cannot change sex and therefore think that giving mens rights to women is fundamentally wrong.

It follows that we don’t believe that men who claim they are women should have the same rights as women, but that doesn’t mean in any way that we don’t want them to have equal rights.

I quite like JOB, bought the book for DH last year, not read it myself.

I think that white MC men need to understand the limitations to their understanding of marginalised groups, a few male comics are advocating for trans rights against evil feminists too. I think there's deep irony that they feel they are standing up for an oppressed group when actually they are just more closely connected to the experience of trans women than biological women, they've failed to grasp an understanding of women's lived experiences and dismissed them in favour of men in women face and actually feel they are feminists.

I wonder why he and others don't stop to consider why women would have an issue with accepting that men are women? Especially when left wing philanthropists like JKR are being so vocal.

Such arrogance.

I do think outside the media bubble more people get it. I don't know anyone in real life who thinks self-ID should happen.

Does 'how not to be wrong' include 'don't be that man who tries to tell women how they should think and behave without any real understanding of their issues'?

Oh what a surprise!! A middle class, white, left leaning man is telling women what is acceptable and what isn't. I am so glad we have people like him to show us the error of our ways and to help police our thoughts.

Does he mention men with functioning penises being allowed access to women's prisons at all, just stating they are women?

We have a very special and astonishingly rude name for him. The only bit we leave in is the O’. He’s utterly vile.

He hasn't got a clue. All he likes is the sound of his own motor mouth. Critical thinking skills? Not O'Brian's strongest point. I cannot stand him.

Cannot stand him. Arrogant, privileged, snide arsehole, not half as clever as he thinks he is. Won't listen to him, so patronising. He epitomises for me the type of person who caused Brexit - and I was a remainer. Listening to him would make me vote leave (if that makes sense).