Medicalised pathway for children is not a "standard of care"

"Bias, not evidence dominates WPATH transgender standard of care"

genderreport.ca/bias-not-evidence-dominate-transgender-standard-of-care/

To be fair to maugham he does refer to them as guidelines (rather than standards of care) in his tweet in his tweet linked above. I'm not sure what the difference would be in legal or practical terms.

Good archiving everyone!

Fabulous links on this thread, thank you all.

I'm Saving this thread.

That's an optimistic publication PrawnofthePatriarchy
An organisation advocating for evidence based, correctly researched medicine and research. A real shift in approach from what we have come to expect.

Have to rush off but this is am interesting document from the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine: segm.org/2020_gender_medicine_highlights_SEGM

Hmmm! By “politicisation” they mean, “Requiring evidence that a treatment works, that its benefits outweigh its risks; preventing children being used as unwitting guinea pigs for predictably harmful medical experiments, and continuing to support homophobic parents drugging and chopping up their children to trans the gay away”.

Squeaky bum time for the Endocrine Society?

"New statement from The Endocrine Society (cosponsored by The Pediatric Endocrine Society) explicitly opposes the politicization of gender-affirming medical care for #transgender youth and opposes legislation that would limit access to care for minors."

twitter.com/jack_turban/status/1341483735699492864?s=20

academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgaa816/6031005

With the people who's job was to apply critical thinking to guidelines which were cobbled together by biased people.

If consultant psychiatrists can't say "no" to a patient then are they competent?

But the WPATH guildelines were specifically mentioned at the Keira Bell v Tavi hearing. Tweet from Newsnight's Hannah Barnes from the hearing:

"Tavistock barrister says NHSE service specification requires GIDS to act in line with WPath guidelines and therefore not possible to deviate from those without being in breach of contract with NHSE.."

twitter.com/hannahsbee/status/1313859932589101056

So the Tavi had to act in line with the WPATH not SoC as directed by NHS England. Where does the buck stop?

I can't think of any other professional body which has patient representatives at an exec level. The board of WPATH has an unusual number of people who have no qualifications or science background.

Lived experience is important, but, it is not everything and it's not enough to build standards of care or guidelines on.

Diane Ehrensaft's talk from WPATH 2018. Thread by 4th Wave Now.

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Diane Ehrensaft thinks babies can be transgender and will express this by doing something like pulling bows out of their hair or undoing a onesie to make it into a dress.

I hope the charlatans involved with the creation of this climate of medicalisation without due diligence are exposed, sued and have to answer for the damage they have done, and been allowed to do to peoples lives.

Whether by their own lack of care, stupidity or more sinister motives, they should not have been allowed to affect practice to such an extent in any event without safeguards in place. Who let them have free rein wreak havoc with children's lives?

The original thread has been unrolled and archived, you might find this version easier to read;

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Excellent archiving.

I predict that the usual suspects will soon be along, attempting to provoke something delete-worthy, in order to get the thread removed

Well done, SunsetBeetch.

Some of them won’t change. The main believers will turn on each other before they say they were wrong.

The hangers on will have that look about them a cat does when it’s covering it’s shit up, whilst pretending it didn’t do it.

Well done SunsetBeetch for all the archiving. As we know the reverse ferreting around the treatment of children is massive "Born in the wrong body" anyone?

Is this a good thing that the Standards of Care are no longer what it says on the tin but instead only guidelines?

I know WPATH is little more than a trade association but their SoC have been held up as 'best international practice' all around the world to challenge and change laws. These Standards of Care (like the Tavistock) state that a child needs to be able to give informed consent before being prescribed PB. If the Good Law Project were to challenge that requirement in court, would WPATHs SoC have the same credibility as 'guidelines' rather than 'standards of care'?

Wow, it's like a Debretts of utter twats

Helen Belcher

archive.vn/fcz8I

Strangely, Susie's own tweets on this seem to have disappeared

Some of us have screenshots.

SunsetBeetch Great work archiving the evidence, ahead of the inevitable denials and frantic attempts to foist the blame on “transphobes” who are allegedly unable to appreciate “nuance”, a la all the recent “born in the wrong body” back-tracking!

Mimmymum/Helen Islan

archive.vn/fZ21f