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Share token for the Times Women 2020 list

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Igneococcus · 20/12/2020 08:48

I have no idea what the problem was with the first thread:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f41a64d6-3b06-11eb-ac13-4bedd83a49b7?shareToken=5da2f939004fbc868487990f57bb89c0

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carlaCox · 20/12/2020 09:15

Wasn’t there also a UK female writer who dominated the top ten book lists and also released a best seller this year???!

Came here to say the same thing! A suspiciously absent name on here... I wonder why that could be?

Floisme · 20/12/2020 09:13

Dolly Parton's on there, so there's that.

Ozgirl75 · 20/12/2020 09:11

I don’t see how saying that if I were trans I would also be embarrassed about the list as none of them are very inspiring either, is against talk guidelines.

Winesalot · 20/12/2020 09:11

Thank you for the share token.

I also note that while Mary Wollstonecraft’s statue, and some amazing female activists who campaign for their special interests, no UK female activists who concentrate solely on women’s rights were included. Oh, and a male activist made the list ... or two, in fact. (Let’s not forget the judge who has had the benefit of being male to progress their career is on the list and not a female judge who has achieved DESPITE not being male)....

That list needs some attention.

Wasn’t there also a UK female writer who dominated the top ten book lists and also released a best seller this year???!

Floisme · 20/12/2020 09:10

Thank you. So basically we can talk about the list but not about some of the individuals who are on the list?

MichaelMumsnet · 20/12/2020 09:06

Hi all, we've deleted posts that either break the Talk guidelines or make this discussion all about a deleted thread. It's fine to discuss the list but we'll take the thread down if the TGs continue to be broken.

Floisme · 20/12/2020 09:06

Oh I see.

Well this is fascinating.

Ozgirl75 · 20/12/2020 09:01

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Ozgirl75 · 20/12/2020 09:00

Normally the Times is pretty good with its columnists but this article is just embarrassing. It’s like it’s been written for another magazine (an American one maybe?) and then lifted and copied.

WorriedForWomen · 20/12/2020 08:58

Again, I’ll say - what a crappy list with random tiktok children who presumably only other children have heard of, a selection of trans women who haven’t done anything more than turn up, fictional women, a couple of models. If this is the best women, then we really are in trouble

Yep. I'd been on the verge of subscribing to the Times (after finally realising the Guardian's not going to change), but this has changed my mind again.

queenofknives · 20/12/2020 08:56

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Floisme · 20/12/2020 08:55

Thanks - I didn't realise the other thread had gone, I'd only just posted on it! All I can think of is that individuals on that list were being mentioned by name?

Interestingly the Times comments are also being heavily moderated.

WorriedForWomen · 20/12/2020 08:55

Thanks for the share token, @Igneococcus.

I didn't post on the last thread but I read it, and I'm going to rephrase the element of it which I suspect was the problem: "Three of the women of the year are biologically male".

Ozgirl75 · 20/12/2020 08:54

Terrible grammar, I do apologise.

Ozgirl75 · 20/12/2020 08:54

Again, I’ll say - what a crappy list with random tiktok children who presumably only other children have heard of, a selection of trans women who haven’t done anything more than turn up, fictional women, a couple of models. If this is the best women, then we really are in trouble.