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Yes I quite like that too!

So what exactly would it mean to “Bobby Fischer the shit out of a situation?”, I guess to be four moves ahead in any situation?
I quite like that as a reference actually. Very specific.

Bobby Fischer (always four moves ahead according to the Hilltop Hoods, maybe wore noted sweaters???) is the only thing I can help you with. That Bobby was a chess master.

I am off to look up the rest because I feel like a complete ‘melt’ not knowing.

Can’t load comments. Have they taken them down altogether?

Errol has started a list for our nominations.

Again, I’ll say - what a crappy list with random tiktok children who presumably only other children have heard of, a selection of trans women who haven’t done anything more than turn up, fictional women, a couple of models. If this is the best women, then we really are in trouble

Yes. We need to start a proper list of the women who have actually achieved something good. Starting with JK Rowling.

I'm surprised they didn't find room for Cher who rescued an elephant and has impeccable credentials. But as you say, the writers probably have the combined age of a mayfly.

That is an awful list. Left wing woke identity politics bias. Where are Liz Truss, Keira Bell, Johann Lamont?

honestly, this article seems to have been written by someone who 1. Can’t string a sentence together and 2. Doesn’t proof read.

Ha! See my PP about Style sections in Sunday rags.

I don't mind a mix of serious and fluff - that's how the world is for a lot of us. If it hadn't been for all the deletions, I'd have wandered off after posting my feeble joke on the first thread. It's the fact that there are clearly people taking this seriously enough to watch and report that's keeping me here.

The entire adjacent article on Christine Quinn (?) is basically unreadable. I mean, I know I’m 43 and therefore possibly above their ideal reader age, but it is the Sunday Times, I can’t be that far outside the demographic.
I have no idea what any of the references mean (what is Bobby Fischer? What is a complete melt Fischell? Are we really using “eye raping” as a phrase now? How would a “menacing rope of violet Game of Thrones sex hair” actually look?), I don’t even know who this woman is that they’re referring to? I live in Australia so I am a little out of touch but honestly, this article seems to have been written by someone who 1. Can’t string a sentence together and 2. Doesn’t proof read.

..sorry, I thought I was on the other thread.

Sure, Dido, Arlene Foster is also a woman of genuine significance like Sturgeon. If you want to include someone, go ahead. As per my suggestions we don't have to agree with or like all the women on this list.

Adele was Weight Watcher of the year.

If Sturgeon is included why not Arlene Foster? I don't think Foster lied and hid facts about when the first Covid cases appeared in N. Ireland

Agree Ozgirl. There is a glaring lack of a slapdash and patronising 'man of the year' list.

I think bornatXmastobequiet is right on why the list is so bad.

the inclusion of Jacinta Arden, various scientists etc suggest that it isn’t supposed to be an entirely “soft”’list

There's a decided disconnect between the scale achievements of those women and much of the rest. Essentially I think that reflects how high the bar is for women (and actually men too) doing serious work is to get recognised by fluff 'journos' and the general public versus 'celebrities' . Well, for the latter it's pretty their whole raison d'etre so that's hardly surprising.

Thing is, I did initially read it and think “this is one of those “who’s hot who’s not” type lists where of course it’s not serious and is more about who has touched the news this year in the entertainment section, but the inclusion of Jacinta Arden, various scientists etc suggest that it isn’t supposed to be an entirely “soft”’list and therefore I think I’m justified in feeling a bit aggrieved that out of the women doing “notable” things this year, so many are models, reality stars, pop singers etc, none of whom really add all that much to the world outside that in which they inhabit.

wrong thread!

Ruth May (Chief Nursing Officer)

In the spirit of the article; what a shit list.
What was the point of that? I mean with so little going on in the world...

Here you go:

FWR women of the year www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4111315-fwr-women-of-the-year

I know it's not meant to be that serious. I think the point is that some people are taking it very seriously indeed, hence all the deletions.

The disappointing part of this (apart from some of the names in the list) is that they invite comments and contributions and then have shut down commenting and deleted most of them - although I’m glad to see Jo March is still standing. Such a poor show from the ST.