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Sky Arts ‘Portrait artist of the year’ - anyone watching?

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Toughie · 16/12/2020 20:21

‘Our sitter is one of the most celebrated comedians of our time, she has ....she is ....’
I was expecting Jennifer Saunders or Ruby Wax.
No. Eddie Izard.
‘I’m gender-fluid’... ‘I want to be in full-on girl mode from now on’ ... ‘I’ve asked to be referred to as ‘she’ and ‘her’ etc.
I’m trying to work out why it irritates me so much.
I think it might be the black high-heeled lace up boots.

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Nore · 16/12/2020 22:16

Oh, good to know others felt the same way — I was so irritated by Eddie Izzard being introduced as a female comedian etc I actually turned it off by the first ad break, because I realised I was willing the three painters to make the most unflattering portraits of all time. I mean, has he the faintest idea how hard it is to be a female stand-up?

Spoiler me someone — who won?

Voice0fReason · 16/12/2020 22:14

I love the programme, haven't seen that episode yet.
I use to love Eddie but then he turned into a nob and I cannot bear the "girl mode" thing.
I'm glad that he didn't like the paintings - that will make it easier to watch!

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 16/12/2020 22:13

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Winesalot · 16/12/2020 22:13

Why is it always ‘girl’ this, ‘girl’ that? Infantilising nonsense! Just like a certain model who went to have their feminizing facial reconstruction who took a teddy bear to the hospital bed with them.

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/12/2020 22:10

I love this programme wasn't impressed with the drag queen episode and then started watching tonight but had to turn it off when I realised they were all calling Eddie Izzard 'she' and his wittering about 'girl'. So I watched the repair shop which was much better

Tollergirl · 16/12/2020 22:10

@Toughie - YES!!

I do apologise for hijacking this thread by the way - probably should have started a new one but I was already pissed off by this today and seeing Eddie Izzard in "girl mode" just finished me off!!

Toughie · 16/12/2020 22:08

Please let us know the response Tollergirl.
I’m a teacher and cannot imagine how this would come up in any form in any lesson.

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Toughie · 16/12/2020 22:06

Ok so obviously I’ve just googled it.
This was shown IN A SCHOOL?!?!?

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Tollergirl · 16/12/2020 22:05

I'm so relieved that others are thinking the same because I have been worried about being "that parent " and DP has only just got home from work (he is now WTF +++). Neither of us are prudish and we are fairly open with DC but I am really struggling to see why this is considered appropriate teaching material for Y10.

We have now agreed that we will be contacting the school to ask a very simple "why?". Thankfully my DD is eminently sensible and is always happy to tell me what they've been doing in these lessons but this has just got me v puzzled, as well as pretty cross, actually. She also has a great sense of humour because she said "do you think if xxxx (our dog) had watched it he would have been offended by people saying they were dogs!! Grin

If anyone is interested I will keep you posted about the school's response.

Bunnybigears · 16/12/2020 22:02

I used to quite like Eddie's take on him wearing dresses etc when he used to say 'I'm just a bloke in a dress' but this new gender-fluid girl mode Eddie has really pissed me off.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/12/2020 21:59

DONT GOOGLE IT!!!

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/12/2020 21:59

Well it doesnt involve actual puppies for a start toughie

Toughie · 16/12/2020 21:57

What in fact is puppy play?

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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/12/2020 21:56

Didn't like "looking like Angela Merkel"

Bang out of luck there then

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 16/12/2020 21:55

@Tollergirl

It's made me really cross and I was so looking forward to it! WTF is "girl mode"? This is just topping off a generally WTF day as my 15 yr old DD was made to watch a film about "puppy play" during RSE today at school! I asked what the teacher said the rationale for this was? I suspect it's just the wokeism that is now normalising fetishism in the guise of educating our DC.

More annoyingly this had led to me dropping several stitches in my knitting project. Hey ho, I can pick up dropped stitches because I'm like, in "girl mode". As my DD said, he's too old for that anyway he should have said "woman mode" Hmm

What the actual fuck
StellaAndCrow · 16/12/2020 21:53

"My 15 yr old DD was made to watch a film about "puppy play" during RSE today at school!"
WTF indeed tollergirl. Why on earth would that be shown in school? I can't imagine any context in which that would be appropriate. I'd be very interested to know how the school explain it.

OverByYer · 16/12/2020 21:40

Curtis is just lovely. I enjoyed last year when Christabel got to paint Nile Rogers

Toughie · 16/12/2020 21:38

Me too Arabella. I think I’m clever if I watch something on ITV+1.

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YesMeLady · 16/12/2020 21:36

No thank goodness but her portrait is unbelievably funny

ArabellaScott · 16/12/2020 21:35

Do I need a TV? Can I not watch it on the computer?

Sorry, I am shit at all this [waves hands vaguely at the 21st century] stuff.

Toughie · 16/12/2020 21:35

Does she talk about dry vaginas?

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Teaandcrisps · 16/12/2020 21:34

Oh my - give this artist his own chat show - interviewing and artistry. His conversation with Carlos Acosta is beautiful.

YesMeLady · 16/12/2020 21:33

You have to watch it. Fast forward it to Jenny Eclair.

Toughie · 16/12/2020 21:30

I was going to watch that but saw that old Lozza was on so gave it a miss. Not sure I can take two twatty narcissists in one night.

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Toughie · 16/12/2020 21:28

Channel 11 on my TV. Some quite good stuff on there surprisingly. Have seen some interesting book club type programmes, and quite a lot of interesting music stuff and load of old episodes of Tales of the unexpected.

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