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Christingle becomes transphobic. Apparently.

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Defaultname · 16/12/2020 18:05

Christingle, which I'd never heard of, meant a lot to this family until...

",,,as the queer and transgender father of a two-year-old, I visited the church’s website. I was hoping to find a message of inclusivity, something to reassure me that the welcome I had taken for granted my whole life still applied to the person I am and the family I have today. The “What we believe” sections were vague. So I tried a reverse approach, since it has the kind of graphic design and web presence that suggest affiliation to bigger, well-endowed networks. Google pointed me to a UK organisation called the Evangelical Alliance. I typed my postcode into its “Find a church” tool and the first result was our Christingle church.

In the EA’s news archive, I found a press release about the importance of rejecting Gender Recognition Act reform, a process that was aimed at making the lives of trans adults less bureaucratic. There were pieces about why “gay cakes” are a threat to free speech and then there was a video.

It started off very gently and compassionately, talking about “inclusion” and “understanding”. Just as I started to feel reassured, the presenter began describing “transgender” as “confused” and an “ideological movement”. He talked ominously about genitalia and so-called spectrums, and questioned whether, if a trans person were to call a church to ask about gender-neutral toilet provision, it might well be “a coordinated effort to catch the church out”. www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/dec/16/i-used-to-love-christingle-until-i-discovered-what-my-church-thought-of-trans-people

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7Days · 16/12/2020 18:30

They don't believe in queer theory - fair enough, if you do it may not be a perfect fit.
They do believe in God, if you don't...etc..

ItsIgginningtolookalotlikeXmas · 16/12/2020 18:27

Evangelical church not happy with LGBTQIA+ issues. Shocker.

Nomnomarrgh · 16/12/2020 18:27

There’s someone determined to feel oppressed.

Speaking as a Christian, I am fully aware that the Church is not always the nicest of organisations.

looking at you, section of the Bible that says slavery and rape is absolutely fine

jhuizinga · 16/12/2020 18:25

How many times does the word 'I' appear in this article. Just a bit self-centred / self-involved perhaps and the very opposite of what the Christingle is about.

BlueCatRedCat · 16/12/2020 18:23

X-post with StillWeRise. Agree with you 100%

BlueCatRedCat · 16/12/2020 18:22

This can be summarised as: I went looking for offence in an extremely conservative, religious organisation, and, reader, I found it! Aren't I oppressed! Christmas is cancelled! Whaaaah!

No chance this person could have just found a nice, run of the mill, liberal church I suppose? And the sheer hypocrisy of them not being a Christian or a regular church goer at this church or any - using them for Christmas entertainment value only - but wanting this church to bend their rules for them nevertheless.

StillWeRise · 16/12/2020 18:22

So the church exists to provide entertainment for this person and their child
And they haven't even bothered to find out what this festival is about, but they HAVE bothered to research if the church is woke enough to be graced by the presence
I'm sure if they'd wanted to they could have gone 'had fun' and nobody would have noticed......but then that would be a bit pointless, wouldn't it Freddy?

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