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Would you ok your son wearing a dress?

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KristinaJup · 12/12/2020 18:46

Candace Owens recently tweeted (in response to Harry Styles wearing a dress on a magazine cover) "Bring Back Manly Men".. amongst other things.

Who really cares if a guy wears tutus and glittery dresses? Prince was hot af in his heels and Makeup.

Imo I would have no problem with it at all if my son wanted to put on a skirt but the tweet gained a lot of traction and I saw quite a few memes and lots of fingers pointed at feminism for "ruining men"

If we carry on this way the next thing will be....women should not be wearing trousers! What do you think?

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emptyplinth · 12/12/2020 20:55

Yes I'd be fine.
Candace Owens is tedious.

DidoLamenting · 12/12/2020 20:54

@TheSandman

Luckily I live in a country that actively encourages this sort of thing:
Yawn. How many times does it have to be said that a kilt is a cultural exception to the Western norm that men don't wear skirts. It's not even the case that it's common for all men in Scotland.

Personally I think those men look awful but each to their own. The kilts are ok but why they need to be bare chested escapes me.

fallfallfall · 12/12/2020 20:54

Kilts and religious tunics aside. Yes, I believe in a distinction between men and women although acknowledging not everyone is gender conforming. I wouldn’t be easily accepting of a child of mine choosing to wear a dress. I wouldn’t make it easy, I’d expect a good lengthy debate but ultimately I love my children/ grandchildren and would potentially accept.

TheABC · 12/12/2020 20:52

@TheSandman

Luckily I live in a country that actively encourages this sort of thing:
Yum!
Unicant · 12/12/2020 20:51

I'd be happy that he was confident enough to express himself in a way thats regarded as unusual... I think its interesting and shows character, creativity and strength. 8 thought Harry styles looked amazing on the coverbof vogue. And I love fashion myself why would I ever censure my son for being interested in fashion and making bold choices?

5zeds · 12/12/2020 20:50

There are quite a lot of Muslims who don’t attend mosque and a fair few from the Middle East, and Indian subcontinent who aren’t Muslim. I think it’s probably more you see “robe” and think “Muslim” than there aren’t Christian, Hindu, etc who wear these things.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 12/12/2020 20:49

I don't have a problem with it, but I wouldn't let my boys wear a dress or skirt outside, no. Where we live they would be absolutely ripped to shreds, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to harm them, and we live in a decent area.

Sorry but Harry Styles looks fucking ridiculous in that picture, and Prince was not hot.

helpfulperson · 12/12/2020 20:48

Noone is saying this is currently mainstream but why shouldn't it be? Women fought to make women in trousers mainstream.

TheSandman · 12/12/2020 20:48

Luckily I live in a country that actively encourages this sort of thing:

Would you ok your son wearing a dress?
WineTheBobbin · 12/12/2020 20:47

If they wanted to wear a dress I wouldn't stop them but I'd be really worried about bullying.

Awarethebear · 12/12/2020 20:46

@5zeds here in the UK most practising Muslims only wear theirs to go to Friday prayers at the mosque so I would say it is religious attire.

Woohoowoowoo · 12/12/2020 20:45

@2bazookas my mum is n her 70s and was fired for wearing trousers to work in her youth. When I went to high school in the 90s, we weren't allowed to.wear trousers until the headmaster decreed it was cold enough. This shit is not new.

JKRisagryff · 12/12/2020 20:43

I love Harry styles for wearing his dresses and just getting in with it. I think he’s a great role model for little boys who are gender non-conforming. If he were ever to ‘come out’ as non-binary I’d be really disappointed.

Woohoowoowoo · 12/12/2020 20:41

I would let my sons where a dress.

People say on here that they would be ridiculed for doing so. It is only by standing up to small minded people with stupid ideas about what other people are allowed to do, that change will happen.

There are plenty of other men out there who wear dresses and skirts. Robert Sheehan for one. None of them are getting slated for it because they weren't in a boyband.

DidoLamenting · 12/12/2020 20:40

[quote equuscaballus]@DidoLamenting
You were never part of the alternative/goth culture then.

It isn't new and i've been on many nights out with straight/bi males who wore dresses for fun and pulled it off well with confidence![/quote]
No but how many were? It's just nonsense to pretend this is mainstream. And tbh plenty of male goths wore make-up- not so sure about dresses

5zeds · 12/12/2020 20:40

Ok @Awarethebear but Muslims don’t wear dresses/robes/dishdasha as part of their religion. I think it’s cultural not religious, just as boys wearing trousers is cultural here.

BlackWaveComing · 12/12/2020 20:39

@AuntieStella

I made a conscious decision that I would never get worked up by anything my DC did to their appearance that was reversible.
Also this!
BlackWaveComing · 12/12/2020 20:39

Yes, as a fashion statement, or a statement of pushing back against sex stereotypes. Happy to 'allow', even to purchase. Definitely to defend.

Not if it appeared to be related to a fetish (thinking older teens here). In that case I would grey rock the entire thing, not banning, but also being disengaged and non-reactive towards the dress wearing. Starve the provocation of emotionality.

I'm personally not attracted to manly.men and prefer androgynous men, so perhaps this is why I have a limited attachment to masculine norms of dress.

DidoLamenting · 12/12/2020 20:38

@DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow

My son can wear what he wants. Unfortunately, in this world we live in, I would try to dissuade him from leaving the house in a dress for his own safety; but not for any other reason. There are a lot of arseholes out there who would think it a sport to harass and attack a male wearing a skirt.
He would also of course, once he hits puberty, be subject to scrutiny from radical feminists wondering if he had impure and improper motives for wearing feminised clothing.
Awarethebear · 12/12/2020 20:38

Muslim men wear shalwar kameez so I assumed you was.

Awarethebear · 12/12/2020 20:36

I was replying to simonjt and user127575 ( not those numbers but the picture they posted) NOT YOU 5zeds.

AuntieStella · 12/12/2020 20:35

I made a conscious decision that I would never get worked up by anything my DC did to their appearance that was reversible.

equuscaballus · 12/12/2020 20:34

@DidoLamenting
You were never part of the alternative/goth culture then.

It isn't new and i've been on many nights out with straight/bi males who wore dresses for fun and pulled it off well with confidence!

DidoLamenting · 12/12/2020 20:34

@2bazookas

Gawd, you must be young; some of us here have already lived through the time when women were often criticised for wearing trousers in public. I had open complaints from employer , other teachers, and even neighbours.
I'm 61- how old are you? I don't remember this being the case.
midgebabe · 12/12/2020 20:34

I think when people say "but it's not a dress " they mean " it's the type of dress that they understand is acceptable as menswear"