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Would you ok your son wearing a dress?

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KristinaJup · 12/12/2020 18:46

Candace Owens recently tweeted (in response to Harry Styles wearing a dress on a magazine cover) "Bring Back Manly Men".. amongst other things.

Who really cares if a guy wears tutus and glittery dresses? Prince was hot af in his heels and Makeup.

Imo I would have no problem with it at all if my son wanted to put on a skirt but the tweet gained a lot of traction and I saw quite a few memes and lots of fingers pointed at feminism for "ruining men"

If we carry on this way the next thing will be....women should not be wearing trousers! What do you think?

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Blubellsarebells · 12/12/2020 22:15

Personally would have no problem with my son wearing what he wants.
I would worry about other peoples reactions if he went in to town in a dress.
Aggression/violence.
Im half scottish so kilts are common place at special occasions.
I love a man in a kilt and might encourage my son to wear one.

ReeseWitherfork · 12/12/2020 22:13

Please tell me this is tongue in cheek

Why on Earth would that be tongue in cheek? I know a lot of toddler boys who adore Elsa, why can't they wear an Elsa dress?

FourPlatinumRings · 12/12/2020 22:13

Made me a little suspicious, to be honest, all these seemingly new posters piling in to state the complete opposite of the usual stance here

It's a hot thread in active and has likely pulled in posters from a similar thread on chat where someone's six year old boy wants to be a girl and wear dresses.

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 12/12/2020 22:12

.. I'm especially surprised to see posters on Feminist Chat having a problem with it

We get all sorts on here.

Crystalclair · 12/12/2020 22:12

I wouldn't let my son wear a dress. He'd get bullied!

Savourysenorita · 12/12/2020 22:11

I must admit.... He looks quite cool Grin

Would you ok your son wearing a dress?
EmilyinWolverhampton · 12/12/2020 22:10

Btw I'm a regular on MN and a frequent poster on FC, just name-change pretty often.

EmilyinWolverhampton · 12/12/2020 22:09

When I was in school it was considered cool and subversive for boys to do the whole androgynous thing. (Obviously talking about older boys, not children.) The younger generation simply don't look at things like gender and gender norms the way we do, and children who are three now will be growing up in a world where every other person has their own personal pronoun of choice and their teacher spends half the week as Miss and half the week as Mister.

It's a different world now. Stop projecting what schools were like in the 1960s/70s/80s onto today's children. A child is a million times more likely to be bullied for wearing glasses than for wearing a dress.

gottakeeponmovin · 12/12/2020 22:09

I love a man in a dress nonissue as long as they look good in it. Harry Styles tries too hard it's just not natural - it doesn't suit him. I grew up in the 80s and 90s when blokes wearing makeup and dresses was completely normal

yourhairiswinterfire · 12/12/2020 22:09

@midgebabe

Unless there have been a few name changers, it's not the regulars who are promoting such sexist positions
Made me a little suspicious, to be honest, all these seemingly new posters piling in to state the complete opposite of the usual stance here 🤔
Savourysenorita · 12/12/2020 22:07

[quote TeenyTinyDustinHoffman]@Savourysenorita
So, ignoring the fact that the dress was about boys and girls, not men and women:

If a designer was to design a "dress for men", tailored to fit a man, would it be acceptable in your view for a man to wear it?[/quote]
I guess it would be a start.

ReeseWitherfork · 12/12/2020 22:06

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FourPlatinumRings · 12/12/2020 22:05

Of course I would. I don't intend to actively put toddler DS in dresses but when he's old enough to express a preference, he can wear what he jolly well likes. Forcing people into boxes does more harm than good. I do wonder how far the, 'but other folk won't like it!' brigade would go to avoid censure. People didn't like the suffragettes either.

midgebabe · 12/12/2020 22:05

Unless there have been a few name changers, it's not the regulars who are promoting such sexist positions

TeenyTinyDustinHoffman · 12/12/2020 22:05

@Savourysenorita
So, ignoring the fact that the dress was about boys and girls, not men and women:

If a designer was to design a "dress for men", tailored to fit a man, would it be acceptable in your view for a man to wear it?

midgebabe · 12/12/2020 22:04

Wrap them in cotton wool and don't let them step out of line is not my idea of good parenting. Supporting them when people bully them, teaching them that they are ok however they are, that is good parenting , wether it's clothes or maths , the principle is the same

EmilyinWolverhampton · 12/12/2020 22:04

I can't imagine anyone having a problem with it. It honestly shocks me that anyone does. I'm especially surprised to see posters on Feminist Chat having a problem with it, considering FC is usually pretty gender critical.

One of the main reasons we're having to deal with the fallout from all the trans identity politics stuff is due to society becoming far more rigid about people having to adhere to strict gender norms, and the resultant insistence that if you do anything society has coded as being for males/females, it means you actually are male/female and need permanent surgery, non-reversible drug treatments, etc.

I'd far, far rather live in a world where a boy can wear pink or skirts and still be a boy, than a world where boys are told if they like pink it means they're really a girl and need major surgery to 'fix' their bodies, and one where girls are encouraged to like trucks and get dirty if that's what they happen to like, rather than be told if they like trucks and getting dirty it means they're really boys and should be chemically sterilised so they don't develop breasts and start periods.

If society was more accepting of men/boys liking things coded as being "girly" or "feminine" we'd have a hell of a lot less men believing they're entitled to invade female spaces.

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 12/12/2020 22:03

... now haha your wholes just getting deeper.

That's a Buddhist thing, yeah?

yourhairiswinterfire · 12/12/2020 22:02

Condoms are designed for men. Dresses are designed for girls. It's no more strange to ask a woman to Don a condom than it is to ask a man to Don a dress. Both are designed for the opposite sex. Fact.

A condom is designed specifically for a penis, for males. A dress is designed to be supported by a pair of shoulders. I don't know where you're from, but round here boys, girls, men and women all have a pair of shoulders. So dresses are designed for anyone who fancies them. Fact.

DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow · 12/12/2020 22:02

@Griefmonster

PPs who say they would worry for their children - the question is would you allow...Not would you make your son wear a dress... Genuinely surprised at the amount of control you have over what your over 3 year olds wear.
Why surprised? People generally buy clothes for their 3 year olds, and most of them buy from the boy/girl section as appropriate. The question didn't state an age. I think most posters are assuming older child who has more say in what they wear.
CrazyToast · 12/12/2020 22:00

@Awarethebear It's really not. Shalwar kameez is worn by people of all religions from an Indian background- Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Sikh, Buddist, Jain etc. The long robe worn by muslim men to mosque is called a thobe. Its not a shalwar.

Griefmonster · 12/12/2020 21:59

PPs who say they would worry for their children - the question is would you allow...Not would you make your son wear a dress... Genuinely surprised at the amount of control you have over what your over 3 year olds wear.

ReeseWitherfork · 12/12/2020 21:59

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Savourysenorita · 12/12/2020 21:59

@midgebabe

A tattoo is not removable, a dress is Don't you ever put yours in the wash?
You're still allowing them to make a choice that they do not understand the consequences of. Sometimes you've got to be the adult and guide them for their own protection