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Would you ok your son wearing a dress?

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KristinaJup · 12/12/2020 18:46

Candace Owens recently tweeted (in response to Harry Styles wearing a dress on a magazine cover) "Bring Back Manly Men".. amongst other things.

Who really cares if a guy wears tutus and glittery dresses? Prince was hot af in his heels and Makeup.

Imo I would have no problem with it at all if my son wanted to put on a skirt but the tweet gained a lot of traction and I saw quite a few memes and lots of fingers pointed at feminism for "ruining men"

If we carry on this way the next thing will be....women should not be wearing trousers! What do you think?

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SimonJT · 12/12/2020 22:29

[quote CrazyToast]@Awarethebear No I'm not missing any point, unless what you're saying is that white people don't wear it, which they don't in general.

Shalwar is a garment worn by people from South Asia and some from Central Asia--- there are many of these people in the UK too.

It's not to do with being Muslim. It's to do with the culture you are from. You may see Muslims wearing a shalwar to mosque but that is cos they are Indian or Pakistani or Bangladeshi, not cos they are muslim.

You'd see Hindus wearing the same thing to mandir or desi Christians wearing it to church. I have loads of British Indian Christian friends who wear it all the time.[/quote]
Careful, you’ll be accused of being a mentally unwell fantastist.

FourPlatinumRings · 12/12/2020 22:29

@CatsCantCatchCriminals2

Some gingers..

Oh good! Are we talking about biscuits?

Only a ginger can call another ginger, ginger, according to Tim Minchin (a fellow ginger).

I am a ginger. Thus, I can use the term.

DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow · 12/12/2020 22:28

@ReeseWitherfork

Have we talked about the fact that a boy/man wearing a dress doesn't make him transgender? There seem to be some posts which assume that would be the case but I might be reading between the lines incorrectly.
I don't see any posts suggesting that wearing a dress = transgender, although I have skimmed some of the posts. Actually a transgender person might be less likely to be abused where I live.
CrazyToast · 12/12/2020 22:28

@Awarethebear No I'm not missing any point, unless what you're saying is that white people don't wear it, which they don't in general.

Shalwar is a garment worn by people from South Asia and some from Central Asia--- there are many of these people in the UK too.

It's not to do with being Muslim. It's to do with the culture you are from. You may see Muslims wearing a shalwar to mosque but that is cos they are Indian or Pakistani or Bangladeshi, not cos they are muslim.

You'd see Hindus wearing the same thing to mandir or desi Christians wearing it to church. I have loads of British Indian Christian friends who wear it all the time.

Laurie01 · 12/12/2020 22:28

Live and let live.
Would you want someone telling you what to wear, what religion you had to be, or who to love?

Embrace individuality, love yourself, love others. Simple x

ReeseWitherfork · 12/12/2020 22:28

Also - I'm a ginger who never got bullied. Teased perhaps. But doesn't everyone get teased for something when they're junior/secondary age?

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 12/12/2020 22:27

Don't get me started on gingerbread ejaculators.

ReeseWitherfork · 12/12/2020 22:27

Have we talked about the fact that a boy/man wearing a dress doesn't make him transgender? There seem to be some posts which assume that would be the case but I might be reading between the lines incorrectly.

midgebabe · 12/12/2020 22:25

But why would you dye a biscuit? Wouldn't you just use coloured icing a.

midgebabe · 12/12/2020 22:25

Gosh, loads of my family are ginger and never dyed their hair!

Except my aged aunt, who dyes it ginger again these days

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 12/12/2020 22:25

Some gingers..

Oh good! Are we talking about biscuits?

midgebabe · 12/12/2020 22:23

I mean, my parents could have told me not to do my maths homework, just to focus on English like a good girl. Because it would have reduced bullying,. But it would have been wrong, it would have stopped me being me, it would be giving in to bad people who live in a stereotype world

jj1968 · 12/12/2020 22:23

@KristinaJup

Heartbreaking that a lot of comments mention fear for their sons safety should he go out in a dress etc.
And surprising on a forum where so many insist trans is the safest demographic and that most transphobic hate crimes are made up.
joystir59 · 12/12/2020 22:22

Manly men can wear dresses, wear pink, collect China dolls, cry easily, manly men can be ballet dancers, make up artists, midwives, nursery nurses, wear make up and heels. Manly men can be gay, bisexual, heterosexual or asexual. Let your boyish boy express himself however he likes.

FourPlatinumRings · 12/12/2020 22:22

@Crystalclair

This is the thing though- kids still get bullied for being ginger and that is out of their control. Why actively allow your child to wear something that will highlight and attract negative attention.
Some gingers (most, in fact) dyed their hair to escape the bullying. Should a parent of a ginger forbid a child to wear their hair as its natural colour and force them to dye it in case their redheadedness attracts unwanted attention?
CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 12/12/2020 22:22

@Crystalclair

This is the thing though- kids still get bullied for being ginger and that is out of their control. Why actively allow your child to wear something that will highlight and attract negative attention.

...or better still, why not actually tackle the bullying problem.

Once. And. For. All.

Blubellsarebells · 12/12/2020 22:22

IN THE UK
boys in Scotland wear kilts.
Scotland is still in the UK.
Much to many people's disappointment I know.

midgebabe · 12/12/2020 22:22

So a child may or may not get bullied for wearing a dress
Clearly, the more who do, the less likely bullying is

Isn't that a kind of victim blaming?

After all the world would be better if boys and men could wear what they like, and preventing them from doing so could also be harmful

ColdTattyWaitingForSummer · 12/12/2020 22:20

Honestly? I wouldn't like it. Fine for play or fancy dress, but not for actually wearing. And I have to say that the boys I do see who are most likely to be wearing "girls" clothes, it's usually down to the parents' agendas, much more than their own wishes.
I think Harry Styles looks a bit of a twerp in his dress really! But obviously he's an adult, it's his decision and I'm sure he's not swooning over me either Grin

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 12/12/2020 22:20

Girls wearing trousers doesn't seem to get people worked up so much. Does it?

But boys wearing dressses? That's beneath them?

(I don't think that but that's how it comes across.)

Crystalclair · 12/12/2020 22:19

This is the thing though- kids still get bullied for being ginger and that is out of their control. Why actively allow your child to wear something that will highlight and attract negative attention.

Awarethebear · 12/12/2020 22:18

@crazytoast I know exactly what a shalwar kameez is and you are missing my point of IN THE UK.

FourPlatinumRings · 12/12/2020 22:16

@Crystalclair

I wouldn't let my son wear a dress. He'd get bullied!
I really do doubt it. Kids are much more progressive these days. I went to a really rough secondary school- no toilet cubicle doors, people getting beat up in corridors etc, but it was totally unacceptable to go for LGBTQ people, people with disabilities or people of a different race or religion. Both the school and the other kids would have come down like a ton of bricks on anyone who tried. They bullied the gingers, mainly. And the nerds.
maddy68 · 12/12/2020 22:16

I'm not 💯. But probably

Crystalclair · 12/12/2020 22:15

Big difference in wearing a fancy dress dress (at home) to wearing dresses to school etc.