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CBBC - When Mum Becomes Dad

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ScoldsBridle · 09/12/2020 03:19

My Life, Series 11: When Mum Becomes Dad: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000pz3c via @bbciplayer

I’ve just watched it. First thoughts are what a lovely, bright child the daughter is. Her little brother is sweet too but is very quiet and my heart was breaking when he was talking about a story in school about a child losing their Mum. The mother that is now Dad Jack, was doing all the standard legwork stereotypically done by a ‘Mum’ - ferrying the kids about, organising play dates and birthday parties, helping with piano lessons. The Dad that fathered them featured only when he came to ‘help support’ at his own daughter’s birthday party.

Dad ‘Jack’ (formerly the person the kids knew as their mother) was dressed how I dress but had a deeper voice and facial hair so was obviously taking Testosterone. They were not interviewed as the whole programme was ‘led’ by Tilly (except we know how TV programmes are made and we know it will have been guided and ultimately steered by Dad Jack and the programme ‘consultants’).

It was a classic scripted/constructed ‘documentary’ masquerading as a fly-on-the-wall. Therefore there was lots of ‘oh let’s go and talk to this other person with a transgender dad that I’ve never met before’, or ‘oh look at these photos of my Dad when he was a child that I’ve never seen before’, ‘oh let’s get the boy with the transgender Dad who I just met in Brighton come and help me talk to my little brother’s class of 9 year olds about having a Transgender Dad’.

I felt uncomfortable at the scene where the first child they met who had a Transgender Dad was talking about having to have counselling to deal with it all - it was actually referred to as bereavement counselling. I also felt sorry for the little brother being probed about the upsetting incident in school where someone likened his situation to his Mum having ‘gone away’.I thought it was intrusive and I’m not sure the poor lad was entirely happy being jollied along in the making of this ‘documentary’ by his big sister and Dad Jack.

I couldn’t help but wonder at the ultimate selfishness of Dad Jack and the other Transgender Dads. Dad Jack used some abstract musical metaphor about how living as a woman felt like playing a wrong note on the piano. And there was this infuriatingly unexplained concept of ‘living as a man’ and ‘living as a woman’ What does it mean??!

I felt sorry for the children having to accept this concept that they no longer had a mother. It seems an awful lot to ask of children and, personally, I thought that some of them looked like they were carrying a weight. The class of seemingly well-coached 9 year olds, looked slightly baffled but that might just have been because there was a film crew in their classroom! And the children reinforced the mantra of ‘being kind’ and accepting everything to make other people happy.

I hope I’m allowed to discuss this programme on here. It’s on CBBC so I feel it valid for me to critique it honestly as both a parent and an interested viewer. I see that Freddy McConnell (the Transgender man who is campaigning to be called the father on their child’s birth certificate) was a consultant on the programme and Fox Fisher also helped with the ‘casting’.

Be interested to know what others think. It’s been on Iplayer since 30 November so very recent.

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Redwinestillfine · 09/12/2020 07:18

This is on children's BBC not adults BBC??

MotherExtraordinaire · 09/12/2020 07:16

Yet again this seems like this supposedly PC world that has gone wrong and it's the children affected here but also attempting to normalise this for our unaffected children.

NeurotrashWarrior · 09/12/2020 07:12

I do also think there's deliberate moves to use transmen in these types of programmes.

As a pp says, the adult is still in the main caring role. Doing the lion's share of the parenting as mothers do.

Previous attempts to show kids and trans parents have used transwomen which has all been about the clothes they wear.

More of the general public see through that.

NeurotrashWarrior · 09/12/2020 06:56

Lying to them. Denying their own feelings. Telling them this is normal and they must accept it.

aging · 09/12/2020 06:53

Sorry what do you all mean by gaslighting the children?

TheVanguardSix · 09/12/2020 06:46

What a clusterfuck.

FannyCann · 09/12/2020 06:45

Sounds like more BBC gaslighting of children. If we think there is a lot of poor mental health among the young today, it will be at epidemic levels in 10-20 years. A generation of children coached to navel gaze and be introspective whilst being taught biological lies. And all the while told to be kind, no boundaries allowed. Sad

NeurotrashWarrior · 09/12/2020 06:30

I remember fox fisher talking about making that. Pre the Freddie judgement.

Poor kids.

childrenoftransitioners.org/

MRC20 · 09/12/2020 05:51

Those poor kids, bloody selfish parents. Imagine sending your child to parental bereavement counseling while their mother is still alive. Can't get my head around the level of gaslighting to a child. I think these kids are being abused and should be removed.

endofthelinefinally · 09/12/2020 05:34

What strikes me, over and over again, is the level of selfishness and complete self absorption and lack of care or thought for the damage inflicted on the children.

AvocadoBathroom · 09/12/2020 03:46

How confusing and messy. Poor kids.

Nomnomarrgh · 09/12/2020 03:38

That sounds very cruel and thoughtless. Yet again the BBC encouraging the destruction of boundaries.

MyMajesty · 09/12/2020 03:24

I haven't seen it but it sounds awful. Sad