Atlantic has an article about "anti-trans feminism" and of course Mumsnet is mentioned

I've had a read.

Women carve out their own spaces and we don't like it

It's not on

Wahhhhh

Stomp

Wahhhh

And by that I mean it's not balanced at all.

Well that's a balanced article...

The journalist compares feminist spaces like Lipstick Alley, Ovarit, and Mumsnet to right wing communities like incels and the Donald.

They do?

Funny little journalist.

It's a shame. I generally like The Atlantic. But the work experience kid could do better than this.

"Eventually, her beliefs radicalized further: She became convinced that gender is fixed"

This reads like a parody.

Someone didn't do any basic research, did they? Rad feminists, believe gender is fixed? Dear me...

Well, that might explain the new posters today.

Welcome to you all!!!

So disappointed in The Atlantic, which is normally good at fact checking and has published some excellent articles by Helen Lewis.

I had to re-read the line about how "keeping T**Fs in close proximity to trans women comes with a severe price: continued harrassment, bad-faith attacks, and implied or explicit threats of violence". Ah, I thought, at least the author is acknowledging the threats given to GC women.... No, apparently it's the GCs who have been violent to TW. How can anyone who has researched the issue fail to see that the threats are mostly one way?

I haven’t read the article.
For me personally I question at a basic level the use of gender as a basis for medical intervention because I just can’t see how it’s anything more than medicalising people who don’t fit gender stereotypes. It’s a society problem that the person experiences as the (absolutely real!) pain of not ‘fitting’.

Having said that, adults who feel they need to medically transition because they can’t change society and after getting psychological help feel it is the best chance of their happiness, I 100% support and wouldn’t want to in any way discriminate or allow those people to be discriminated against.

Those people should be protected legally and their needs balanced with other vulnerable groups on a specific basis as makes most sense in each given situation.

I do not support children medically transitioning. I would want young people and families to have the best psychological support before they reach adulthood in the hope they can feel at peace with their bodies.

I suspect in many people’s eyes these views make me an extremist. But it genuinely isn’t coming from a hateful place. I struggle to identify with the links to those other groups who seem a) completely immune to reason b) nationalist and c) generally anti ‘people who aren’t like me’. I don’t identify with any of those positions.

Welcome to all the women who've read it.

It is frustrating but on the plus side a load more people hearing about these sites will go check them out for themselves and some of those will stick around.

I suppose 'feminism excludes male people' wouldn't have made a clickbaity enough headline.

*Waves to all the visitors from The Atlantic.

Yes it's frustrating but what else have they got? Facts? Science? Rational arguments?