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Jo Maugham

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GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 20:51

I follow Jo on Twitter and feel that the GoodLaw project is a needed and good thing when it comes to holding ministers/gov spending to account. He seems to take refuge in the rule of law and facts .... so, so WHY after the recent ruling on puberty blockers is he tweeting and retweeting Trans folk who are sharing (in emotive and extra detail) their experience post ruling. What his deal?? What’s his skin in the game? Looked through some old tweets and he really seems to have come down hard against women’s rights.
Ca anyone explain his deal here?

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GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 22:51

foxes need to be careful around our Jo Grin

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exLtEveDallas · 04/12/2020 22:47

There are very many men heavily invested in trans rights. Why? Why do they feel they need to fight this fight in particular?

Foxes in the henhouse. Although foxes need to be careful around our Jo.

OldCrone · 04/12/2020 22:42

There are very many men heavily invested in trans rights. Why? Why do they feel they need to fight this fight in particular?

I could offer a simple explanation, but it would be swiftly deleted.

SadlyMissTaken · 04/12/2020 22:36

People keep on saying he is affected by a family member or relative. I've seen no evidence of that. The reference to a neice/nephew was a quote. There are very many men heavily invested in trans rights. Why? Why do they feel they need to fight this fight in particular?

WeeBisom · 04/12/2020 22:29

His attitude towards this ruling is unhinged. He's not being objective about it at all. In fact, he's straight up lying. He is a QC so is bound to be seen as a cool headed authority on the law, so it's very depressing to see a legal professional behave in this way.

For example, he said the high court 'refused' to hear from a single trans person in the review. This makes me think he hasn't read the judgment because I recall at least three trans witnesses for the Tavistock, who all had favourable things to say about their treatment. So Maugham is either straight up lying, or he's made a massive mistake. He also repeats his claim that the court 'refused' to hear from a single trans charity. As I've mentioned before it's not particularly difficult to be able to intervene as a third party in a judicial review. The fact that neither Mermaids nor stonewall got permission to intervene suggests that their intervention either added nothing or was just straight up bad. If Jo wants to be mad at anyone for letting down trans kids he should be berating these charities for presenting such a poor case.
He then talks about 'suicide attempts' that he's heard of which is ...just crazily irresponsible language.

He finally berates white , privileged, upper middle class, privately educated people for talking about things they don't understand, and yet concedes that despite being white and posh and male he is using his voice to talk for trans people. Does he not think he's a member of that exceptionally privileged group of people?

And then his finale is to shriek that the ruling was a shameful, shameful, legal and moral blot for this country. But he's a tax lawyer. He doesn't work in family law, or medical law where an understanding of competency and consent is required (in fact, Jo has previously got in trouble for haughtily proclaiming that such areas of law are 'not prestigious'.) Shouldn't he really take his own advice and stop commenting on areas of the law he isn't trained in and doesn't understand?

justanotherneighinparadise · 04/12/2020 22:26

It’s certainly interesting that even after these companies drive to tick some diversity targets they still end up with a boardroom full of white males.

littlbrowndog · 04/12/2020 22:22

Maybe he’s not used to women saying nope we won’t back down

littlbrowndog · 04/12/2020 22:22

Just two white privileged guys. 😂😂

Preach it joly. Go on preach it

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/12/2020 22:20

Maugham is going to bring down the Good Law project. It has done some really good stuff, but his latest case (suing the NHS for long waiting times) seems very unrealistic. Plus of course, having raised some money for that case he has now changed the focus of the case to overturning the PB case.

It is fascinating and disturbing to watch a lawyer let their emotion overwhelm their reason and their feelings override facts.

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 22:16

I phrased that poorly @SweetGrapes - but you’re right, it’s depressing when men don’t value the “lived experience” (Envy vomit phrase) of the actual women in their actual lives.

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PotholeParadies · 04/12/2020 22:11

I can't believe they don't have the nous or the will to separate the funds for the different types of legal action.

ListeningQuietly · 04/12/2020 22:04

The Good Law Project was good
when it was non personal
but its now just him and his bugbears
the rest of us have had to walk away

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 22:04

Yes exactly @Biscuitsanddoombar exactly!

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Biscuitsanddoombar · 04/12/2020 22:02

I do find it amusing but enraging that JM lectures us that white middle class oxbridge men have too much privilege & that we need to listen to marginalised people

the board of the good law project

goodlawproject.org/about/

Living those values eh JM?

SweetGrapes · 04/12/2020 21:58

The emotion of someone you know personally.

As opposed to Women - whom he never knows personally??? Hmm

FKATondelayo · 04/12/2020 21:58

Well, I think we all have theories.

Glance to camera, MIranda style

Helmetbymidnight · 04/12/2020 21:57

he has blocked hundreds of polite women on twitter- i find his behaviour unhinged. i dont know how his colleagues are standing for it.

Helmetbymidnight · 04/12/2020 21:55

the good law project is not just him tho, is it?

are the other lawyers not freaked out that instead of holding the govt to account they are bow fighting for children to access experimental drugs?

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 21:54

It also seems odd, unfocused and unprofessional.

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GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 21:53

Ah a personal connection makes sense, it also does seem to be where many people disconnect from women’s rights - which could seem abstract if you are a man I suppose - to supporting trans ideology. The emotion of someone you know personally.

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dinglethedragon · 04/12/2020 21:52

I used to support the GLP on a monthly basis, I stopped recently and told them why.

JM seems to have lost the plot on this issue IMO.

Impatiens · 04/12/2020 21:52

His attitude towards 'trans rights', the Tavistock ruling and any Woman who dares to challenge him is highly unprofessional.

PotholeParadies · 04/12/2020 21:37

Actually, I'm misremembering. He tweeted an article about someone and their nephew, and commented that he had also been on a similar journey with someone he loves.

Exact relationship unconfirmed.

twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1299038143799332869?s=19

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 21:22

Puberty blockers for kids does appear to be a very personal crusade for JM

InterfectoremVulpes · 04/12/2020 21:20

Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest?