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Jo Maugham

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GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 20:51

I follow Jo on Twitter and feel that the GoodLaw project is a needed and good thing when it comes to holding ministers/gov spending to account. He seems to take refuge in the rule of law and facts .... so, so WHY after the recent ruling on puberty blockers is he tweeting and retweeting Trans folk who are sharing (in emotive and extra detail) their experience post ruling. What his deal?? What’s his skin in the game? Looked through some old tweets and he really seems to have come down hard against women’s rights.
Ca anyone explain his deal here?

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SlipperyLizard · 05/12/2020 08:29

The arrogance of a man who thinks three senior judges have failed to appreciate all sides (having heard all sides), throws around suicide “statistics” with no proof and against Samaritans guidelines, accuses Fair Cop of being “terrorist” (when the cause Fair Cop is fighting for should send chills down every lawyer’s spine) and blocks any woman who either disagrees with him (politely or otherwise) or likes a tweet that disagrees with him (like me!).

His echo chamber is so complete I doubt there’s anyone on Twitter able to disagree with him.

Dances · 05/12/2020 06:55

Poor Jo needs just wants to go clubbing to let off some steam.

SophocIestheFox · 05/12/2020 06:37

@nauticant

Tax law is notoriously difficult and does attract a tiny group of very clever people who can master it.

However, people who have that extremely narrow form of cleverness sometimes assume they must be brilliant at everything. Which ironically is its own form of stupidity.

The Germans have a word for this, of course: fachidiot

Noun. A derogatory term for a one-track specialist who is an expert in his field, but takes a blinkered approach to multi-faceted problems.

which certainly seems to apply to our Jo Grin

I too have a theory for why Jo is so interested, but getting deleted is not how I care to start my weekend, so I’m not going to share it.

To be honest, the more testerical he gets, the better, because if all you’ve got is bloviating outrage, and your case is so unformed it can immediately be switched from the one you said you were bringing, to challenging another one that’s already happened that you didn’t seem to have noticed was happening, then what you’re saying is you don’t know what you’re doing, and you haven’t got a case. Good.

What I’m not pleased about is him ratcheting up the emotion and making trans people feel they’re under attack. I never fail to be shocked by how cavalierly vulnerable people are treated by those who profess to be looking out for them.

Angelina1972 · 05/12/2020 04:32

I noticed that angry outraged Tweet of his as well. I unfollowed him immediately. I wonder if he’s got less female followers now?!

HeadPain · 05/12/2020 02:49

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 05/12/2020 01:17

If you are a man and the reality of your engagement with equality issues is that you do little more than default to the views of a significant woman in your life that doesn't make you woke it makes you lazy

Because anyone can do better than listen to a woman, much less learn from her, even if you have to pretend so she’ll let you shag her.

PotholeParadies · 05/12/2020 00:11

Other notable quotes. Again, the metaphor of journey beimg used here.

I've been on a journey on trans issues - and I have ended up a long way from some or even many in my tribe - and I wanted to set out some things I've learned along the way. THREAD

[...]

If you are a man and the reality of your engagement with equality issues is that you do little more than default to the views of a significant woman in your life that doesn't make you woke it makes you lazy.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 05/12/2020 00:06

I've certainly got the impression from public utterances by JM & others close to him that they have a personal connection (one that he hasn't publicly disclosed as a motivation for his campaign to ensure children have access to puberty blockers).

nauticant · 04/12/2020 23:58

Tax law is notoriously difficult and does attract a tiny group of very clever people who can master it.

However, people who have that extremely narrow form of cleverness sometimes assume they must be brilliant at everything. Which ironically is its own form of stupidity.

PotholeParadies · 04/12/2020 23:57

@SadlyMissTaken

People keep on saying he is affected by a family member or relative. I've seen no evidence of that. The reference to a neice/nephew was a quote. There are very many men heavily invested in trans rights. Why? Why do they feel they need to fight this fight in particular?
Quote from JM: "(which echoes a journey of my own with someone I love)"
DrudgeJedd · 04/12/2020 23:49

His Twitter bio is "perform your values" and he does love a touch of theatrics

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 23:46

@Biscuitsanddoombar

I do find it amusing but enraging that JM lectures us that white middle class oxbridge men have too much privilege & that we need to listen to marginalised people

the board of the good law project

goodlawproject.org/about/

Living those values eh JM?

That's interesting Lord Stewart Wood used to be a v powerful figure in Whitehall. Former Chief Advisor in No 10.
Siameasy · 04/12/2020 23:38

He’s infected with whatever Susie Green has that causes her to spout nonsense
Caught it off a Fox maybe?

accessorizequeen · 04/12/2020 23:38

I think he’s incredibly emotive for a lawyer. He called Fair Cop a terrorist organisation.

Sarah Phillimore (@SVPhillimore) Tweeted: I am making formal complaint to the Bar Standards Board. This is appalling, disgraceful conduct. t.co/a7ff1oodYh

WinterIsGone · 04/12/2020 23:31

I just looked at the board members - just two.
It's actually three if you scroll across, I think.

FloraFox · 04/12/2020 23:24

I don’t know how he is as a tax lawyer but his work in other areas suggests he’s the type of lawyer who construes the law to suit his facts without the ability to step back and analyze it objectively. I don’t mean advocating your case but not actually analyzing it properly. For example, his response to Keira’s case is so weak. What evidence does he think Mermaids or Stonewall would have brought that would have changed the decision? And why didn’t they just give it to the Tavi? Also, I find it “surprising” that they didn’t consider the possible outcomes of Keira’s case in the opinion they published on their waiting list case. There are some other glaring problems with that case they don’t seem to have considered. Either they haven’t thought of them or the opinion they published is not their whole advice, which is misleading if you are using it to raise money. It’s a bizarre decision in itself to publish the advice, which suggests he hasn’t fully considered what he’s doing here. Also, I agree with the PP about him charging in to an area of law he has no experience in. He seems to think tax law is harder so he can turn his hand to any area of law he fancies.

Along with arrogance, he has a strong sense of himself as a good person. I think he’s blinded himself to the possibility of being in the wrong, legally or morally. This seems to be quite common among these so-called lefty men.

All in all, a toxic combination.

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2020 23:20

@HecatesCatsInXmasHats

He says it because it generates outrage.
Indeed. It gets him attention.

The same way Trump gets attention and fanatical support.

lanadelgrey · 04/12/2020 23:19

I just looked at the board members - just two. Seems like a small number to have on a board. Were there more, has someone or some people left recently? Two chums from the same school/uni, hardly needs a board does it?

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2020 23:19

Maugham managed to get himself into a position where he was highly respected and influential a couple of year ago, making his name off the back of brexit. He became something of a 'twitter star'.

Its possible as thats faded he's just looking for the next issue to make a name for himself / maintain the influence / status he has previously had both on twitter and in wider outside circles.

This happens to be the idea he has hitched his wagon to, knowing its more popular with younger people and its a key issue of both the LD and Labour Parties.

It could therefore be straight sucking up to certain people or an outright opportunistic position which he thinks he can get popularity / status from in a way not altogether different to Mr Garage.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 23:14

He says it because it generates outrage.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 23:13

Plus Mermaids & Stonewall weren't able to put forward new or relevant evidence that's why they weren't included.

littlbrowndog · 04/12/2020 23:10

There was trans people giving witness

Why is he lying

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 23:05

For example, he said the high court 'refused' to hear from a single trans person in the review. This makes me think he hasn't read the judgment because I recall at least three trans witnesses for the Tavistock, who all had favourable things to say about their treatment. So Maugham is either straight up lying, or he's made a massive mistake.

He's lying

FannyCann · 04/12/2020 23:00

Excellent summing up WeeBisom

InterfectoremVulpes · 04/12/2020 22:53

They do indeed Grin