Jo Maugham

Does that mean I have to just fucking shut up and listen to other people tell me about how my life is and what it means to be me?

Just like white, wealthy, middle class women for ages past, eh? Is this really it? We had, what, 50 years of being people and now we have to go back to being passive vessels to reflect somebody else's sense of who or what they are?

No, you don't. It's just a lazy way for misogynistic men like Maugham to try to dismiss women who raise inconvenient objections.

I just read the Guardian article mentioned above, and I thought it was interesting that although he didn't meet his biological father until he was 17, it was through him that he actually got his first step on the ladder.

So when Katie Hopkins accused me on Twitter of being out-of-touch with the majority of people thanks to me having an Eton-educated father called [David] Benedictus, it seemed right to answer............ with David’s help, in time got a clerical job at the BBC. My work there... was enough to persuade Durham to offer me a university place, despite my grades.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/31/class-ability-understand-others-background-poverty-wealth

Intersectionality in feminism never has to intersect with penis for fucks sake

So frustrating. We have nothing in common. Women and transwomen are discriminated against for completely different reasons. Women and transwomen are persecuted by men for completely different reasons. Our healthcare needs are completely different, different life experiences, etc.

It makes zero sense to include them in feminism because we're poles apart.

[quote nauticant]Does that include the windmill?

woodforgood.com/case-studies/jack-windmill[/quote]
The windmill was put up for sale at £3m (bought for just over £1m) earlier this year and is currently under offer. I believe the sale is related to the court action being brought by the builders re £500k unpaid fees...
So just back to the London pad then.

Intersectionality in feminism never has to intersect with penis for fucks sake.

Man holding forth on what bad feminists women are gets this face from me

Pressed the button too soon... And yes - his response does seem very performative and OTT. Maybe he was hoping for a role in panto.

We're a phalanx, now, then? I thought we were a cabal? You'll be telling me that we're no longer The Vulva People next! FFS.

Interesting theories. Do you think it's because he got a taste of social media "fame" with Brexit and he thinks this will replace that (in terms of keeping his profile high?)

I'm white and middle class and, compared to most people in this country, relatively wealthy.

Does that mean I have to just fucking shut up and listen to other people tell me about how my life is and what it means to be me?

Just like white, wealthy, middle class women for ages past, eh? Is this really it? We had, what, 50 years of being people and now we have to go back to being passive vessels to reflect somebody else's sense of who or what they are?

I. Will. Not.

Having read that Guardian article about his background, my totally unqualified diagnosis would be that while he is good at analysing dry technical questions concerning tax legislation, his sense of self is delicate (for perhaps understandable reasons) and he struggles to think rationally in situations that are highly emotional.

He identifies so strongly with people he perceives to be victims that he can't distinguish between personal attacks and reasonable argument.

The hubris of the man. He's a self appointed guardian of feminism now is he? I actually think he might peak a few people with this sort of stuff. He's a middle class white man who specialises in tax law. Wtf does he know about feminism and where does he get off telling women how to do it.

Man Finally Put In Charge Of Struggling Feminist Movement

"And don't get me started on how disorganized and scatterbrained their old fundraising methods were," McGowan added. "Let's just say the movement never really had a head for numbers."

Does the new ruling mean that those who were imprisoned back in the 80's for failing to 'Be Kind: Rewind; their video-tapes might now have some hope of early release (thogh not, of coures, a pardon)?

Excellent point Thingy. It's a cynical ploy and one that he should be criticised for. It requires people to overlook that he himself has reached extremely well-off middle class status and to direct their anger towards "middle class" women who have the audacity to speak their mind once they've done the same, rather than busy themselves in the domestic sphere (not that there's any evidence that GC feminists are a homogenous group, see Lipstick Alley). "White feminism" is another misogynistic import designed (more than anything) to shut women up. JM on the other hand believes that he is allowed to wang on about matters that concern women interminably. I wonder where he gets the conviction that his words matter more?

She wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth either but can be dismissed now due to her privileged position.

I personally think ad hominem attacks on his wealth/class are unneeded given that his arguments can be shredded just on their own (lack of) merit.

It was a response to him making this same accusation towards women he doesn't approve of, so entirely relevant.

I, for one, am interested in intersectionality. I just disagree with the likes of Jolyon as to where the lines of intersection arise when it comes to transideology.

Does that include the windmill?

woodforgood.com/case-studies/jack-windmill

He wants people to forget that he's a barrister with two homes and no doubt a large bank account so he can paint himself as a defender of intersectionality, calling out "middle class white women" in the process. I don't doubt he had to work hard to get there. It must have been very hard also to have a father born into such privilege who cut ties with the family. However, he fails to identify that as a man he was always more likely to succeed in his chosen profession. It's not irrelevant.

Do you think he consults anyone else before making proclamations on behalf of good law project? Is it basically his own organisation? I always got the impression there were a few people behind it, but could be wrong.

Check out the diversity: goodlawproject.org/about/ (scroll down)

It reminds me of the Coop and the Spectator earlier this year. That was very amusing.

www.forbes.com/sites/jamiewareham/2020/09/04/co-op-no-plans-to-stop-advertising-in-spectator-amid-hostile-transgender-coverage/

I'm getting increasingly irritated and exasperated with appeals to "intersectionality". It's often just used as a buzzword. Female people as a sex class have specific needs and need their own representation and no truly intersectional approach would ignore that.

It's the new "GC Feminists are aligned with the far right", GC Feminists are middle class white women who should get back to baking and Xmas decorations. Sally Hines does this as well.