No "female" gender option at work, only "cisgender female"

Gender is the state of being male or female in relation to the social and cultural roles that are considered appropriate for men and women. - from Collins.

Wow. Collins are misogynistic shitbags, aren't they?

So if OP transgresses the boundaries of socially constructed femininity she's not of the "female gender". She is therefore quite right not to have ticked the "cisgender female" box.

Gender according to Collins: if you're not womanning right, you're not female.

Aren't there now over 100 genders? I've seen a list that was at least 100 and I think some were added to it, they're being very discriminatory and need to add on the 90+ they've missed off.

When I moved to one of the Gulf States, I was incensed that my documentation had me listed as “Christian”, because of the assumption that that’s the same as non-Muslim. I didn’t do anything, because at best, their response would have been “well, off you fuck then”. I still had a good old seethe whenever I saw it, though.

I now quite want to go back to any form where I’ve ever ticked the atheist box and redo them to say “magnificent heretic” smile

My husband put atheist (or something similar) and then wasn’t allowed a booze license!

If female isn't a gender identification then what is my gender?!

I identify as having no gender, it is social construct used to oppress. I have a sex, that is defined under the equality act.

Point out to your employer many people find the term 'cis' offensive and ask if they would monitor 'race' using the N word?

@TyroTerf

You might like to tell Collins dictionary then that female is not a gender
www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/gender

Whether you like it or not cisgender has been adopted as meaning the same as my sex, I find it annoying too and never willingly use it but legally it's correct

I disagree. If males can have a female, or woman, gender identity then clearly it’s not an identity that is the same as my sex.

When it comes to gender identity I’ve no idea what mine is because it’s not linked to biology and has no definitions.

Any of this personal information beyond the plainly objective - age and sex - shouldn't be enforced on official records.

Apparently the Nazis work was made significantly easier in the Netherlands because they had excellent public records which included religion. If in that era the record had included sexuality, presumably there would have been more pink triangles.

Sure, we all hope that would never happen again but complacency is foolish. If the desired goal can be achieved -arguably better - by anonymous data, then that's what should be gathered.

Well exactly, Sophoclesthefox. That's what I said. If they haven't asked for/ recorded sex then there's no way of recording sexism expressed in lower pay rates for women etc.

They really need two separate questions, because they’re asking about two separate things, eg, what is your sex? (Only two options) And what is your gender identity? (Could be anything from this list of 10, or 100, or whichever number they deem meaningful)

Only the first question is going to give them meaningful data with which to apply the Equality Act characteristic of sex. , unless they miraculously have a large number of the 5000 or so GRCs currently issued in the UK.

If female isn't a gender identification then what is my gender?!

It's your sex class.

There are multiple confusing conflations that feed into this. The general public uses sex and gender interchangeably to refer to male and female reproductive classes; the wokesters use them interchangeably to refer to internal identities; the feminists separate them out into female (sex) and feminine (gender). And then there's the ongoing dispute over whether woman means female or feminine.

If they're asking you to choose between female, male, or prefer not to say, then they're asking about your reproductive sex class. But they're asking about gender identities (as evidenced by the dread c-word). Female may be your sex identity, but if you call it a gender identity you're inadvertently screwing us all over.

Yup, OP. Take it you're aware that you are protected by your sex under the Equality Act 2010. How are they planning to do equality audits/ equal pay audits if they haven't recorded sex? How can they be sure they're not discriminating against you if they don't know your sex?

When I moved to one of the Gulf States, I was incensed that my documentation had me listed as “Christian”, because of the assumption that that’s the same as non-Muslim. I didn’t do anything, because at best, their response would have been “well, off you fuck then”. I still had a good old seethe whenever I saw it, though.

I now quite want to go back to any form where I’ve ever ticked the atheist box and redo them to say “magnificent heretic”

I’d have to ask to be put on a staff training course before I was able to answer that question. Literally no one’s going to ask me that in my personal life so if they want to ask such complicated questions at work they need to provide training.

Oh lord
My Internet is slow and I cross posted with many!

Is there a “prefer not to say” option?

I think the box you ticked is quite right btw, but if they don’t have “prefer not to say” that’s a problem.

They should have a prefer not to say option...

All this really confuses me... It was until this thread that I even realised what cis means! I female by sex and I am female by gender. The fact that that isn't even an option is outrageous to my severely unwoke self 😂

Speak for yourself, not for others.

Ditto.

OP, It's your employer writing the questions so it's then who need to define the language they are using.

Gender did and does still mean male/female (bio sex) but if they are using it to mean something else then they should say so.

If you untick it online you can surely say it didn't record your selected option and play dumb. Your work appraisal is about your work not your sexual orientation or your some new HR form that has confused you.

They sound like utter numpties OP. I hope you're not stressing over this.

I'm not surprised anyone is confused about gender. It doesn't have a universally understood meaning.
I find myself thinking it's a lot like religion - for many people this is a real and important thing. For others (like me) it holds no meaning. I have no discernible sense of 'inner gender'. I know what sex I am and I know what I like to wear, how I behave and so on. To me, that's personality, to others that's identity.

What criteria do you use to decide if someone's gender identity matches the sex female

Liking pink and dresses I'd guess. Ffs. 🤐🤐