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Government review of gender neutral toilets

36 replies

MrsBrunch · 03/12/2020 07:06

BBC link

Briefly, there is going to be a review of publicly accessible toilets as it is acknowledged that women are disadvantaged.

Don't know if there's another thread but you can contribute at [email protected]

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ThatIsNotMyUsername · 03/12/2020 08:16

That will cost money.

Businesses and venues only seem to want to spend the bare minimum - so rubbish accessible facilities - so just chance the ladies loos/changing rooms uni sex for the cost of a door sign.

HecatesCats · 03/12/2020 08:13

Lesbians, being of the female sex would normally use the women's toilet and gay men, being male, would use the men's. Bisexual people can use the facilities appropriate for their sex. So really, it is the people under the Trans umbrella that Felix is really talking about, isn't it?

That's right. I think Felix should run with this and start a National campaign for a third space.

HecatesCats · 03/12/2020 08:11

Indeed Deltoids

NancyDrawed · 03/12/2020 08:11

I'm all for third spaces alongside single sex spaces for those who feel unsafe in the correct facilities for their sex and for those who are happy with mixed sex spaces.

Regarding toilet provision, truly gender neutral cubicles like accessible toilets are more acceptable than what happens in reality, which is changing the sign on the women's toilet door to gender neutral but not changing the interior in any way.

As an aside, in the clip Felix says 'anything regarding public access that doesn't include LGBT+ people, is anti- LGBT+'
But surely yet again, it is all about the T? Lesbians, being of the female sex would normally use the women's toilet and gay men, being male, would use the men's. Bisexual people can use the facilities appropriate for their sex. So really, it is the people under the Trans umbrella that Felix is really talking about, isn't it?

Deltoids1 · 03/12/2020 07:53

I think, I’m a round about way, Felix is saying he shouldn’t need to feel unsafe in the men’s which is quite right. Men really need to stop being dicks to each other.

Whatwouldscullydo · 03/12/2020 07:25

So they are having a review because they realise it disadvantages women but if they keep it all they have to admit they don't care it disadvantages women so potentially we could be in the same boat having been told an official "we don't give a shit" ? But at least its honest I guess...

I hope they back up on this crap! So many establishments just changing signs on the door and leaving the mens as it is...

Sooner we go back to designated facilities the better

ExpensivelyDecorated · 03/12/2020 07:24

Thanks for the link, I will email.

ContessaDiPulpo · 03/12/2020 07:22

@HecatesCats

Felix is arguing for extra mixed sex provision alongside single sex toilets then? Excellent. Thanks for the link OP.
Yeah, I'd go for that! Two single sex spaces and one mixed sex space, all set up with interior cubicles that have walls descending all the way to the floor. That'd work Smile
LaVitaPuoEsserePiuBella · 03/12/2020 07:17

Thank you for posting this. I will also be emailing my thoughts. I absolutely hate "gender neutral" 🙄 toilets and actively boycott restaurants etc that have them, as well as telling my teen DD never to use them.

HecatesCats · 03/12/2020 07:17

Felix is arguing for extra mixed sex provision alongside single sex toilets then? Excellent. Thanks for the link OP.

Deltoids1 · 03/12/2020 07:12

If I was Felix’s mother I’d be having words... anyway, thanks OP that’s a really good link. I’ve got loads of evidence about this. I’ll be more than happy to contribute to this.