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Bunburying and wassailing into winter - thread 7

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CaraDuneRedux · 02/12/2020 11:41

Time for a new thread. Please can someone c&p the header post? (Am on phone.)

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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 27/12/2020 18:25

I found the

Blow my brains out

Comment quite jarring

ArabellaScott · 27/12/2020 18:08

@JohnMcClane

Well I call BS on the whole thing, young feminist? Identifies as young and a feminist maybe but we're all experienced enough to know that poster coming on to FWR describing themselves ans young and feminist are usually the complete opposite. I CBA to feed it
Yep, same. If people are in good faith and wish to discuss then that's great. But hyperbole and the sneery tone? Fuck off, dear.
BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 27/12/2020 17:59

I CBA to feed it

good choice. i need to step away. the whole thing is goady bollocks

JohnMcClane · 27/12/2020 17:58

Well I call BS on the whole thing, young feminist? Identifies as young and a feminist maybe but we're all experienced enough to know that poster coming on to FWR describing themselves ans young and feminist are usually the complete opposite. I CBA to feed it

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 27/12/2020 17:45

god, someone get the mother of the person who started that thread a large fucking gin and tonic. raising that OP and then spending Christmas watching the fairy lights reflect off her titanic and ignorant self righteousness must be bloody tiring

the woman's a hero I tell you

and the rude twerp is basically trolling her mother by being here. she needs a good sit down in her bedroom

TyroTerf · 27/12/2020 17:31

Is that the one with an OP asking how us terven witches explain intersex women?

It's not the gotcha they think. My own understanding of what it means to be a woman was very much informed by the experience an intersex woman who was very dear to me. I'm not going to chuck out her analysis of her own lived biology just to back up penis-born people's desire to join the woman club.

QueenoftheAir · 27/12/2020 17:18

We'd all be eternally grateful if you did that @midgebabe

Manderleyagain · 27/12/2020 17:13

It's worth answering again for passers by, lurkers etc. So I'm grateful to those that do. Everyone found this place at different times so without people being consistent & setting out the arguments, even if the op seems a bit iffy, pennies wouldn't be dropping all over the place.

HecatesCats · 27/12/2020 17:12

Ha! That's a great quote Errol

ErrolTheDragon · 27/12/2020 17:09

I CBA to engage with that thread, but I'm minded of the Mark Twain quote:
^
“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”^

... I bet Mr Clemens Snr was wiser yet by the time his son turned 35.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 27/12/2020 17:03

That would probably be easier midge

midgebabe · 27/12/2020 17:01

I think I should write some standard answers in a document that I can cut and paste as needed

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 27/12/2020 16:41

Starts off a bit rude but optimistic

Disappears for hours and then doesn’t answer any questions and tells posters they are wrong having never researched the uk situation

In fact this is exactly the same as a thread a few months ago

Another american if I remember rightly

Biscuitsanddoombar · 27/12/2020 16:32

That’s the one Rufus. I admire the patience of posters answering the same “oooh gotcha you with this one horrible bigots?” questions we’ve had a zillion times before....

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 27/12/2020 16:29

The new thread biscuits ?

Biscuitsanddoombar · 27/12/2020 16:27

I’m intrigued to know in what why that person is a feminist young or otherwise....

TheChampagneGalop · 27/12/2020 15:37

Well it doesn't work very well to convince others does it. I'm always impressed by the gc posters here who happily write long posts with links if someone has a question, even if it's for the 100th time.

nauticant · 27/12/2020 15:04

It follows a tactic adopted by Tony Blair to deflect people asking him questions at PMQs when he would say something like "I refer the Honourable Gentleman to the reply I gave in the House on 4 February to the question asked by the honourable Member for Bognor Regis and Littlehampton".

Except nowhere near as specific.

WiltingAtTreadmills · 27/12/2020 14:59

I peeked at the op there but saw it had gone on to several hundred posts - did the op return to explain what the factual misinformation was about? Bit weird to not put it in the op tbh. Mind you I've been waiting for several years for these posters to come back with the evidence they promise - honestly, for quite a while I was optimistic I'd eventually be proved wrong, given the number of people who confidently say they will - but I have literally never seen it.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/12/2020 14:44

"I know the answer but I'm not going to tell you because I have said it once before" is pretty silly, when new people turn up on Mumsnet all the time and may not have been there when you deigned to post it five years ago.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 27/12/2020 14:27

Sorry obviously i mean evidence/answers

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 27/12/2020 14:26

I dont know champagne

If you’ve already answered the question a few months ago and youve no intention of answering it again then I don’t get it

I think if i was fed up of answering questions I’d screen shot my answer so i could just keeping pop it on the thread where appropriate

Or maybe a sticky at the top saying l...rufus thinks that etc 😀

TheChampagneGalop · 27/12/2020 14:18

What is the point of repeatedly posting on a thread while refusing to back up your statements with evidence?

HecatesCats · 27/12/2020 12:49

I suspect the OP thought they'd get more of a divisive barney out of it and they could sit back and watch women arguing with each other. TRAs seem to enjoy that, divide and conquer and all that.

RoyalCorgi · 27/12/2020 12:44

I assume the Glinner thread was deleted either because it was started by a troll or because it was considered a bit off to have a whole thread discussing one person like that (though there have been others). Although I think it was started in bad faith, I liked having the opportunity to say how valuable I think Glinner's contribution has been.

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