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Bunburying and wassailing into winter - thread 7

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CaraDuneRedux · 02/12/2020 11:41

Time for a new thread. Please can someone c&p the header post? (Am on phone.)

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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 04/02/2021 09:17

I think it would be much easier if we were told what we CAN discuss on FWR

So not recipes, not individuals (unlike the rest of the board), not anything that requires a sex based definition

Erm, must be others

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 09:16

The usage of those terms truly completed the misogynistic vibes we’d been describing in previous threads.

To be honest, I got the vibes of a person who was in complete denial about their own misogyny all along. The lack of understanding of oppression, the delusion that it wasn’t there and the complete dissonance that their child’s distress was the only credible one and all others were paranoia that needed counseling to get over (but not their precious).

to then see those terms being used completed the picture. The hatred of women.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 04/02/2021 09:15

I don’t know anything about after 11 arabella

But yes that who they mean

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2021 09:14

Just bobbing in to mention that the thread about my friend becoming not a woman has been deleted too. No explanation

Really? What was wrong with that thread, it's been up for days?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 04/02/2021 09:14

@Ereshkigalangcleg

And Lang was banned (although not for WBH).

The only possible reason why she should have been banned Grin

I never understood that
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 04/02/2021 09:13

@PotholeParadies

From 11pm to 3am it went weird, Rufus.
😱

Oh its not fair i miss this stuff

Its timist I dont think thats a proper ist but people who need lots and lots of sleep need protection in law

Actually i could ask my son to screenshot....but the first 4 threads went so well!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2021 09:12

There was a new poster yelling mantras and calling people bigots too.

I missed that one, maybe after I went to bed.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2021 09:11

And Lang was banned (although not for WBH).

The only possible reason why she should have been banned Grin

ArabellaScott · 04/02/2021 09:10

5? Crikey.

Ah, a poster whose child had regular meltdowns and controlled everyone in the family yet was 'cool' and hip and everybody loved her?

Was this who was responsible for abuse? I hope not, the poster seemed fairly reasonable to begin with.

PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 09:10

From 11pm to 3am it went weird, Rufus.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 04/02/2021 09:08

Ive been lurking on those threads

And i lurked on thread 5 as well

And i was surprised at the turn it had taken from the first 4 threads, some very nasty language

I went to bed at 11ish so i dont know how it went after that

But i found the purposeful evasion tiresome as i always do, i really can’t understand posters (and there have been a few) who outright lie about what other posters are saying. Its very difficult to get to grips with it because most of us can’t be bothered to check back on threads that are running into the 100’s

And purposeful twisting of innocuous posts...don’t like that either

DialSquare · 04/02/2021 08:55

Just come on to read it and saw that it had gone. I think the threads have been a real eye opener for people who had no idea about the consequences of this ideology. Especially the response to No.

CaraDuneRedux · 04/02/2021 08:53

Very sexualised abusive language.

That's what freaked me out. I genuinely felt threatened by that poster. And I got a very strong sense towards the end (usual disclaimer: no-one can ever tell on the internet) that they were not who they purported to be.

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PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 08:52

Datun

Thank you! I was going down completely the wrong track of puns and so on.

It's very peculiar that this forum is scrutinised so closely.

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 08:49

There was a new poster yelling mantras and calling people bigots too.

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 04/02/2021 08:47

I thought many of the posts and expressions were deeply unpleasant and misogynistic. And the poster was very aggressive.

The poster started by being reasonable and explaining how sorry everyone should feel for their child. Which is fair enough and many posters including me felt that she had been dealt a terrible hand. Unfortunately the same poster never showed any consideration for vulnerable girls.

Once it was clear that most posters wouldn’t put the trans child above girls and women’s right, the mask slipped and the abusive language and threats came out. I found it hard to watch to be honest.

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 08:42

I think they think Langry is Lang come back.

CaraDuneRedux · 04/02/2021 08:31

Gone because allegedly started by a PBP, so I don't suppose any of us will get an acknowledgement of how deeply offensive and borderline abusive the creepy pervy poster was being.

I think the "genitals in the face" post to me was the first time I have felt genuinely threatened by online behaviour.

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Winesalot · 04/02/2021 08:22

Fanny I did wonder if someone archived it. I wish I did but I was so tired I was not thinking.

The tweak to the question really did cause a heightened response and outrage. There were accusations of asking the question that way to make it more emotional. Well, yes. But it also made it very clear that it could very well happen and it directed the discussion to also include men who have certain desires.

The question does not state that transwomen are all those with certain desires, but that is the assumption many angry posters drew immediately.

EdgeOfACoin · 04/02/2021 08:17

@ArabellaScott

Which, Edge, the latest in a series in AiBU? Bugger it.
That's the one Arabella - thread 5.
FannyCann · 04/02/2021 08:12

I didn't go on that thread but I do find myself archiving threads that I think may end up deleted for future reference. Of course the archive is only good up to the time you do it and needs updating as the thread progresses. But I'm trying to train myself to keep those records where they seem important. Still get caught out though, the OP asked to delete an excellent thread that had involved quite a lot of time over the W/E.

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 04/02/2021 08:07

I thought the last thread was quite uncomfortable reading. Threats about reporting and getting people banned, threats about lawsuits unless organisations caved in, general “I will do what I want and you will never be able to stop it”. Absolutely no consideration for abuse survivors, Muslim girls or women in general.

It is sad that it is gone, it was very telling.

ArabellaScott · 04/02/2021 07:54

Which, Edge, the latest in a series in AiBU? Bugger it.

EdgeOfACoin · 04/02/2021 07:51

So annoyed the AIBU thread has gone!! It was the first time I engaged on that series of threads - spent ages tapping out those responses Angry

What a waste of time.

picklemewalnuts · 04/02/2021 07:44

Feckin hell, when defence mechanisms become a banning matter....

Speaking of which the question thread has gone. I don't know what was happening, apart from a spectacularly unpleasant individual, as I was only part way through.