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Sunday Times today covering Keira's case

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MidClegs · 01/12/2020 11:40

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

I'm relieved and delighted, but, also sad for my friend who's child started cross sex hormones because they thought it was the right thing to do.

It isn't the right thing to do.

Thank you, Kiera. You are very brave and we are very grateful.

Do you think there'd be any recourse now for further discussion? Flowers
ArabellaScott · 01/12/2020 11:37

Wow. Fucking wow.

Keira, Susan, et al - you are amazing.

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Kaliorphic · 01/12/2020 11:30

Oh my goodness, well done Keira et al. At last ♥️

persistentwoman · 01/12/2020 11:17

The Times have been outstanding in their coverage of this - so many journalists - not just Janice Turner and Andrew Gilligan (when he was there) have produced high quality investigative articles.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 01/12/2020 11:10

I'm relieved and delighted, but, also sad for my friend who's child started cross sex hormones because they thought it was the right thing to do.

It isn't the right thing to do.

Thank you, Kiera. You are very brave and we are very grateful.

dianebrewster · 01/12/2020 10:49

Thank the goddess! Brilliant. We need the details though....

ChattyLion · 01/12/2020 10:43

OMG

PatsArrow · 01/12/2020 10:41

I feel quite emotional.

PatsArrow · 01/12/2020 10:41

Belstaffe on Twitter saying Keira has WON.

Highwind · 01/12/2020 10:40

Yay! Go Keira! Amazing job!

nancywhisky · 01/12/2020 10:39

....and breathe!!!!!!

MaudTheInvincible · 01/12/2020 10:39

@DeaconBoo

Object is saying they (as in Keira) won! ?!
DeaconBoo · 01/12/2020 10:37

Object is saying they (as in Keira) won!
?!

fastwigglylines · 01/12/2020 10:33

Apparently Janice Turner (of the Times) and also Helen Lewis haven't been abor to get into court because of tight restrictions on numbers.

I hope they still report it even so.

fastwigglylines · 01/12/2020 10:31

Also look at the latest tweets using the hashtag #IStandWithKeiraBell

fastwigglylines · 01/12/2020 10:30

Heather Brunskill Evans and Object are also live tweeting I think.

Heather's here:

mobile.twitter.com/brunskellevans/status/1333672755502452736

YouNoob · 01/12/2020 10:25

[quote ChattyLion]Can someone tell me where I should look at 10.30?[/quote]

Just started a new thread.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 01/12/2020 10:24

There’s someone on twitter tweeting. I will have a look and see who it is.

@Belstaffie I think

ChattyLion · 01/12/2020 10:23

Can someone tell me where I should look at 10.30?

Collidascope · 01/12/2020 10:19

I hope though don't really expect that common sense will prevail.

And there's an interview with Keira on the Feminist Current podcast today.

Highwind · 01/12/2020 10:18

Everything crossed for Keira today!

On that vein, does anyone know if there was a court transcript for the hearing? I have looked but can’t find one though I am certain that there were some live tweets from the people in the courtroom that highlighted a few quotes and lack of data from the Tavistock defence that painted them as not at all competent.

I think it would make for some harrowing but enlightening reading to some.

RozWatching · 01/12/2020 10:17

I'll be gobsmacked if the judges are fine with all of that. It made me feel sick.

Me too, but when there are actual healthcare professionals who are apparently fine with it, nothing would surprise me.

OvaHere · 01/12/2020 10:15

Wishing Keira all the best today. She has a lot of support whatever the ruling.

Kaliorphic · 01/12/2020 10:14

The court ruling is expected at 10.30.

Keeping everything crossed that common sense will prevail.

DeaconBoo · 01/12/2020 10:14

Hoping for the best, expecting the worst, here too. There would be huge consequences if she won, so tbh I can't see them changing the status quo, even though the arguments are solid.

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