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They're gunning for Joanna Cherry now...

168 replies

yourhairiswinterfire · 28/11/2020 18:02

For donating to Sarah Phillimore's crowdfunder 🙄

twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1332668158516342784

An open letter, signed by MP's, was circulating calling for an investigation into some MP's ''transphobia''. Lots of dragging Joanna Cherry through the mud ensued. Donating to Sarah Phillimore's crowdfunder is allegedly an MP ''funding hate'' and needs investigating, along with Christopher McEleny for pointing out that there were no transphobic murders in Scotland. That apparently undermines trans day of remembrance...I'd say the fact that there were 0 transphobic murders in Scotland is the thing that undermines that, but what do I know?🤷‍♀️

Some people who signed the letter shat themselves afterwards and asked for the bullshit parts to be removed from it after they'd already bloody signed it. The original letter has now been edited. Not because it was bollocks though, oh no, but because this is a 'common tactic' of those that oppose trans people. (Nah mates, it's people waking up and getting sick of your lies and propaganda).

Sarah has written a letter to the Scottish Green Party, the Scottish Liberal Democrats and the SNP asking for an urgent investigation and reply, being as members of the SNP signed the letter, and she is now receiving the usual sexual threats and threats of violence as a result, from the right side of history brigade.

Here's Sarah's letter which explains it all better than me.

sarahvphillimore.medium.com/a-letter-to-the-scottish-green-party-the-scottish-liberal-democrats-and-the-snp-54ee740e39de

I'm so sick of these toxic, controlling brats.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/11/2020 10:44

It was a spectacularly misguided hashtag and sentiment to express, knowing how social media works, but in no way "proves" that they are a transphobic hate group. It's a statement about even strong negative feelings about people or groups not being a police matter in and of themselves.

SunsetBeetch · 30/11/2020 10:38

Using that Fair Cop tweet as evidence they are a hate group is plain ridiculous. Do they really believe what they are saying?? Idiots.

They're gunning for Joanna Cherry now...
They're gunning for Joanna Cherry now...
They're gunning for Joanna Cherry now...
SunsetBeetch · 30/11/2020 10:33

@littlbrowndog

I can’t see Paisely tweets. Blocked. I must be on a list
Yes I think he has a big old block list. Sorry, didn't think of that.
littlbrowndog · 30/11/2020 10:20

I can’t see Paisely tweets. Blocked. I must be on a list

They're gunning for Joanna Cherry now...
They're gunning for Joanna Cherry now...
SunsetBeetch · 30/11/2020 09:42

Paisley's been on one again Hmm

"I was falsely accused of defamation by
@joannaccherry
yesterday over the below tweet.

Defamation can only exist where a statement is untrue.

I asked why Cherry had donated to a legal fund for Sarah Phillimore of Fair Cop, who many people feel are a hate group. She didn't reply."

twitter.com/DavidPaisley/status/1333147127770443779?s=20

SunsetBeetch · 30/11/2020 09:39

Kevin McKenna
@kmckenna63
The smear campaign against Joanna Cherry by cowards in her own party needs to stop now: my column for The National

twitter.com/kmckenna63/status/1333118945847619584?s=20

Sexnotgender · 30/11/2020 08:30

@RedtreesRedtrees

We could argue about the bigot thing but I just can’t be bothered. The point is that you do have a political home amongst the fringe parties where you belong.
😂😂😂

I love this. Could have predicted it a mile away.

Such a pathetic response.

Aesopfable · 30/11/2020 08:13

So either a bunch of MSPs signed a letter, which could foreseeable result in putting women in danger, and libelling them and now are trying to distance themselves. Or an obscure BBC actor acted fraudulently adding their name to the letter. Either way the letter was then rewritten despite this meaning the people who put their name to the original letter now had their name attached to a letter they didn’t sign.

Whatwouldyoydo · 30/11/2020 08:06

Who cares what redtrees thinks or means 🤷‍♀️

SophocIestheFox · 30/11/2020 08:03

Yeah, I didn’t get it either, despite knowing the sketch. Googling skulls on caps didn’t help me out either, as I then concluded that she was, rather obscurely, saying you were Jewish littl. Which didn’t make any sense at all in the context. I don’t think you’re a very clear communicator, redtrees, but sure, go ahead and make out like we’re just too dim and humourless to appreciate your rapier wit.

Anyway, completely agree that it feels like being in the upside down to feel like Wings Over Scotland has a convincing argument.

I’d like to return to the original point of the thread, but I’m honestly now confused about who signed what, and what they believed they were signing when they did Confused

SunsetBeetch · 30/11/2020 07:59

@Wbeezer

I dont think communicating clearly is RTs top priority.
Mmmn-huh.
Wbeezer · 30/11/2020 07:28

I dont think communicating clearly is RTs top priority.

SunsetBeetch · 30/11/2020 07:23

Not everyone lives their life through internet memes, Redtrees.

Do you not see David Challenor as a 'baddy' then, or all the party members who have bullied and hounded others such as Rosie Duffield? Funny how you only honed in on one of my points.

Go to any twitter thread where this issue comes up, and tell me you don't see all the ordinary SNP members/voters begging them to stop as this issue is splitting the party.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/11/2020 23:25

Well I recognised it but not everyone spends too much time watching old comedy on YouTube, I don't think recognising it is a mark of intellect or seriousness.

I know the sketch but I didn't recognise that was what RT meant from the obscure reference.

Wbeezer · 29/11/2020 23:25

I repeat redtrees was just referencing a comedy meme, probably to wind you up, dont over think it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/11/2020 23:23

We could argue about the bigot thing but I just can’t be bothered

I'm sure you'll do it as successfully as you've made all your other arguments on FWR.

Wbeezer · 29/11/2020 23:20

@RedtreesRedtrees maybe because the point was poorly made? Have you heard of Godwin's Law? Bringing the Nazis up is never the sign of an effective argument (and is bound to be inflammatory but I suspect that probably your aim).

DidoLamenting · 29/11/2020 23:19

@Tootsweets23

The two halves of the SNP tearing each other apart. Imagine what the Scottish political scene would be like post independence once that single issue stops binding such different factions together. Will be a bloodbath on this and so many other issues.
If this were to cause a schism in the SNP and make them unelectable I would be delighted.
littlbrowndog · 29/11/2020 23:18

But what did you mean redtrees ?

RedtreesRedtrees · 29/11/2020 23:12

This has actually become parody 😂

Defaultname · 29/11/2020 23:10

Leftists tend to emphasise the Daily Mail's support, in the early years, for Hitler.
Not so much about the British Left's spotty history:

With the beginning of the Second World War in 1939, the CPGB initially continued to support the struggle on two fronts (against Chamberlain at home and Nazi fascism abroad). Following the Molotov–Ribbentrop nonaggression pact on August 23 between the Soviet Union and Germany, the Comintern immediately changed its position. The British party immediately fell in line, campaigning for peace, and describing the war as the product of imperialism on both sides, and in which the working class had no side to take. This was opposed within the CPGB by Harry Pollitt and J. R. Campbell, the editor of the Daily Worker, and both were relieved of their duties in October 1939] Pollitt was replaced by Palme Dutt. From 1939 until 1941 the CPGB was very active in supporting strikes and in denouncing the government for its pursuit of the war.

However, when in 1941 the Soviet Union was invaded by Germany, the CPGB reversed its stance immediately and came out in support of the war on the grounds that it had now become a war between fascism and the Soviet Union. Pollitt was restored to his old position as Party Secretary. In fact, the Communists' support for the war was so vociferous that they launched a campaign for a Second Front in order to support the USSR and speed the defeat of the Axis. In industry, they now opposed strike action and supported the Joint Production Committees, which aimed to increase productivity, and supported the National Government that was led by Winston Churchill (Conservative) and Clement Attlee (Labour). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Great_Britain#1939_to_1956

So for a while there, they could point to the Totenkops (the SS's death's-head badge), and say "Not our enemy".

RedtreesRedtrees · 29/11/2020 23:07

I’m afraid you’ve completely missed the point, but why doesn’t that surprise me? 🤔😂

Passmeabottlemrjones · 29/11/2020 23:01

RedtreesRedtrees

So you think that women talking about maintaining certain single sex spaces for women are akin to Nazis?

I bet you think that JK Rowling is solely responsible for trans sex workers being murdered by men in Brazil as well don't you?

As I said upthread - yaaaaaaawwwwwnnnnn......

littlbrowndog · 29/11/2020 22:56

I know. Erm. Eek

persistentwoman · 29/11/2020 22:56

I also googled littlbrowndog - need bleach after reading some of those Urban dictionary definitions. Bleurgh...