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WPUK have released a financial statement showing money received by source and how it is spent

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OvaHere · 28/11/2020 12:14

womansplaceuk.org/2020/11/28/wpuk-financial-statement-2020/

Perhaps we can quit with the 'dark money' narrative now.

I was a little surprised to see a grant from Lush Charity Pot in there. Perhaps as a company they aren't a total write off after all.

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334bu · 29/11/2020 22:12

jj as they say up here " gaunae naw" We get it. You don't like women, especially upstart ones who dare to speak up for themselves. Well sorry to inform you , WOMEN exist and we are VALID and WE WILL BE HEARD .

persistentwoman · 29/11/2020 22:11

Good to keep this thread bumped. WPUK have been fantastic advocates for women and hopefully this will encourage more women to sign up and even fund them.
Let's keep it going.. Smile

Deltoids1 · 29/11/2020 22:06

So are tickets at the football dinner!
Or a half time raffle.

My partners cycling club holds monthly talks, sometimes with paid speakers. It’s £5 a ticket and you get pie and peas supper. Don’t have to be a member to attend. And guess what? They’re not trading either.

jj1968 · 29/11/2020 21:59

@Deltoids1

FFS. WPUK aren’t trading, they’re carrying out activities for the benefit of their membership. Selling tickets to their talks is akin to a football club selling tickets to an annual dinner. JJ, you really have no idea how this sector operates. It’s getting embarrassing now.
Tickets aren't just sold to members though, they are sold to the public. Hard to see how that isn't trading.
Deltoids1 · 29/11/2020 21:50

FFS. WPUK aren’t trading, they’re carrying out activities for the benefit of their membership. Selling tickets to their talks is akin to a football club selling tickets to an annual dinner.
JJ, you really have no idea how this sector operates. It’s getting embarrassing now.

jj1968 · 29/11/2020 21:44

@DidoLamenting

don't think they are trying to evade taxes. I think they are trying to evade accountability by not having named directors/trustees

Bit like the people behind the BLM UK Crowdfunder then. They have well over £1 million. I hope JJ will be asking who they are and what they are doing with the money.

They've closed the crowdfunder and are setting up a formal organisation with the money I think.

They weren't trading though so it's different from a legal point of view.

DidoLamenting · 29/11/2020 20:41

don't think they are trying to evade taxes. I think they are trying to evade accountability by not having named directors/trustees

Bit like the people behind the BLM UK Crowdfunder then. They have well over £1 million. I hope JJ will be asking who they are and what they are doing with the money.

pombear · 29/11/2020 20:33

I've gone to quite a few WPUK meetings and, because I'm lucky enough to be financially OK, i've bought the ticket option that helps others out too (dark money, mine is!).

I'm very happy for available funds went to both speakers and those arranging the events, security etc.

Too many unpaid woman-hours are already being expended, including mine elsewhere, to defend existing rights and (to borrow the language of gender ideology extremists) defending our right to exist as a recognised sex-based defined class of humans.

And given the trend elsewhere on social media for gender ideology extremists to demand payment for the 'emotional labour' of even thinking about stuff, I don't see why women shouldn't get recompensed for thinking and speaking!

TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 29/11/2020 20:04

I actively want WPUK to pay their speakers. Why? Because we have fecking hundreds of years of recent history where women's voices have not been valued. We have been silenced and not listened to when we do try to speak up. We've had to publish our opinions under male names or using that wretched term 'anon.' We've been told our opinion counts for nothing because quite literally just because of our biology.

So if women in 2020 should be paid for their expertise. It's a sign of being valued and respected. It is appropriate given gc women will lose other sources of income and opportunities, too. I would be really disappointed if they weren't paid, to be honest. Women get exploited all over the shop in terms of having to give free labour.

Al77 · 29/11/2020 19:34

Nice work WPUK. Honesty and transparency.

Good news about Lush, though I am not fully convinced, they are selling Trans flag soap, and then all the shop window sign shenanigans and the gender pay gap headlines. I emailed Lush PR department to say I am watching with interest and would really like to resume buying from them as I will miss my orchid cleanser when it runs out. They don't need to support women's groups, they just need to remain unbiased and not take sides.

I also use bath bombs, henna blocks, ultrabland, lust perfume, vanilla perfume, tea tree cleanser and buy stocking fillers from there, so I hope they are going to stay neutral in future or I'm gone for good.
I have found a marvellous long term substitute for all my proctor and gamble products since the tampax debacle so I expect I can find good alternatives to my Lush favorites too.

StillAFeminist · 29/11/2020 18:44

xxyzz agreed re professionalism. This thread has made me realise how efficiently utilised any money I donate to WPUK is. As soon as they need more money I’ll be sure to donate. The one WPUK event I went to was very informative only slightly marred by the large men protesting and being disruptive outside. Being inside in the warm with excellent company and them being outside in the cold and wet helped offset the effect of the disruption Grin

xxyzz · 29/11/2020 18:35

jj - this is seriously bottom of the barrel-scraping stuff here.

My kids' school fete makes more money than WPUK does per event.

I went to the last big event before lockdown and there were about 1000 women there. The only surprise is that they manage to pull off such incredibly professionally-managed events, with such an incredible range of top speakers, for such tiny sums.

And no, I have no objection to speakers being paid, either. If that's their livelihood, it would seem pretty outrageous to expect them to give up time for free. All the speakers I saw on the day were excellent.

SciFiScream · 29/11/2020 18:33

I love the posters sharing their knowledge of important matters.

Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.

StillAFeminist · 29/11/2020 17:58

JJ1968 jayus feels like the women on this thread are working overtime to provide education on this

There is a time limit for lodging a discrimination complaint. That is very different to having to get the case through the courts. As would be obvious when you think about it. Complainants have no control over how quickly the court process works.

More info @ www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/time-limits-discrimination-claims

As I said earlier on this post wrt WPUK Hmm there is nothing untoward about the way Alison is handling herdiscrimination claim and crowdfunder

Tanith · 29/11/2020 17:30

"Ok so now it’s the turn of the other charities and organisations who definitely don’t get money from big business, bigger pharma, and shady characters with a vested interest..."

This sudden accusation of financial irregularity does make me wonder if there's an element of deflection going on.

Oh, and those ticket sales jj. Are you aware that Stonewall UK's ticket sales for 2019 (that's just one year) was £591,460?
Better take a look at their financial statements and you can happily question why the Scottish Government felt compelled to pay them £100,000, the Department of Education coughed up nearly £300,000 and why Merrill Lynch donated £36,695 in 2018.

SophocIestheFox · 29/11/2020 16:09

Fucking hell, is there no end to their criminality? Shock

I also heard that they cross the road against the lights, and they don’t sort their recycling properly. I know this because Fred Phelps told me (he doesn’t go to your school either)

yourhairiswinterfire · 29/11/2020 16:00

@SophocIestheFox

They wear mismatched socks, I heard.

And Ruth S returned a library book late in 2001.

They’re complete outlaws.

I was also told by someone (you won't know them, they went to a different school) that WPUK steal toys out of the hands of babies and then bathe in their distraught tears 😞
334bu · 29/11/2020 15:55

The world according to jj:
Ok then WPUK is maybe not funded by Christian Right but some other groups must be . Oh wait they aren't either but they're funding crowdfunders and if they aren't, they could be and then there's that wee wummin down the street who may or may not have once gone to church and she put £5 into the pot so that proves that all women supporting women's rights to single sex spaces are all raving right wing Christian conspiracy theorists.

MaudTheInvincible · 29/11/2020 15:55

@MichelleofzeResistance

Quite. And I feel compelled to ask if anyone has questioned properly whether they have cooties yet?

I feel you always manage to get right to the heart of the matter MichelleofzeResistance, and this incisive question is no exception.

titchy · 29/11/2020 15:48

@SophocIestheFox

They wear mismatched socks, I heard.

And Ruth S returned a library book late in 2001.

They’re complete outlaws.

ShockShockShock Well that's it then. I hereby withdraw my support and proffer my abject apologies for supporting such a bunch of dastardly rapscallions.
ThatIsNotMyUsername · 29/11/2020 15:48

So no shady money then?

Ok so now it’s the turn of the other charities and organisations who definitely don’t get money from big business, bigger pharma, and shady characters with a vested interest...

SophocIestheFox · 29/11/2020 15:46

They wear mismatched socks, I heard.

And Ruth S returned a library book late in 2001.

They’re complete outlaws.

MichelleofzeResistance · 29/11/2020 15:45

Could Lush be mixed up with the Regan funded nuns?

I've been wondering about the nuns for years. Making soap might be quite a nice occupation for them really, while waiting to.... do whatever nuns do when unleashed. Cheerful community singing possibly?

MichelleofzeResistance · 29/11/2020 15:42

Quite. And I feel compelled to ask if anyone has questioned properly whether they have cooties yet?

Oxyiz · 29/11/2020 15:31

Whats next? Insulting their hair perhaps? Running to tell the headmistress that they're wearing non regulation skirts?