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WPUK have released a financial statement showing money received by source and how it is spent

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OvaHere · 28/11/2020 12:14

womansplaceuk.org/2020/11/28/wpuk-financial-statement-2020/

Perhaps we can quit with the 'dark money' narrative now.

I was a little surprised to see a grant from Lush Charity Pot in there. Perhaps as a company they aren't a total write off after all.

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BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 30/11/2020 08:25

[quote jj1968]@StillAFeminist

Your response to someone thinking £5000 is a lot of money was basically ha ha I'd better not tell you my daily rate. £5000 is what sickness benefit claimants are expected to live on for a year. It's a lot of money to a lot of us, and I was in criticising your flippancy not the fact you have a successful career.[/quote]
Yes, it’s a lot of money to an individual.

Which is why we all crowd fund WPUK and others in (mostly) 10s and 20s, so they have the ability to spend 5 grand on legal fees when necessary.

Many (most?) of the GC legal crowdfunders have raised over 50k each (and counting) so we are well aware how much it costs to employ expert advice.

SophocIestheFox · 30/11/2020 08:06

@Deliriumoftheendless

Honestly we need a fire extinguisher in here for the amount of times someone’s pants are on fire.
Grin

I’m afraid we’ll need to hold off until jj gets here to make an arbitration on whether in fact YOU are the shady right wing cabal, clymene.

Clymene · 30/11/2020 08:02

I think that's a fair summary Sophocles

I just want to correct something in my last post - by 'some of the money' I didn't mean I'd given WPUK more than £5,000. Just in case I'm suspected of being a one woman evil right wing cabal.

Deliriumoftheendless · 30/11/2020 07:57

Honestly we need a fire extinguisher in here for the amount of times someone’s pants are on fire.

SophocIestheFox · 30/11/2020 06:55

If you’re looking for consistency, oxyiz, then I’m afraid you’re in for a disappointment Grin

The main issue seems to be nasty entitled rich women using their ill gotten gains that they’ve both earned off the backs of the exploited, and been given gratis by shady right wing types through donations to completely different organisations, to set up a shoddy structure for unknown nefarious ends, which they’ve managed to fuck up despite spaffing vast sums on unneeded lawyers. They need reported immediately to the HMRC for not paying taxes they don’t owe. Any unsubstantiated accusation can be flung at them, but they should on no account attempt to prevent this, or defend themselves.

I think that’s about the sum of it.

Deltoids1 · 30/11/2020 06:52

JJ, our village football club turnsover more than WPUK.

Perhaps you can stop digging yourself a hole now.

Oxyiz · 30/11/2020 06:30

Wait a minute - so now transactivists think we're all super rich? Then why did they all say things were funded by religious extremists?

(FWIW I don't earn much but even I know 5k is not much in legal fees.)

Clymene · 30/11/2020 05:13

How kind of you to worry where hard working women's donations have gone @jj1968

I'm perfectly happy if they've used some of the money I've given them in taking proportionate legal advice. Just for the record.

DidoLamenting · 30/11/2020 01:11

@Mollyollydolly

The delightful David Paisley is ranting about Lush tonight .. lining them up for his next 'campaign.' The delicious irony it being Lush.
I logged out of Twitter so I could see as I'm blocked by him. He's in a demented rant about Joanna Cherry- demanding that she responds to him. He is deeply unpleasant.
jj1968 · 30/11/2020 01:08

@WildishBambino

WPUK think they are perfectly entitled to send out threatening legal letters threatening to sue for defamation when they have no grounds to do so as they cannot be legally defamed. They think they should have the right to sue, or at least use legal threats to silence criticism, but not be subject to the same pressures or accountability themselves.

The individuals running WPUK can be defamed, if they are associated with the allegations made against the association. Similarly, the individuals running WPUK can be sued if defamatory statements are made by WPUK.

HTH. Yes, I am a lawyer.

True, although if it was personal litigation then it might be reasonable to expect them to use their own money rather than use money held in collective trust intended to fight for women's rights.
StillAHarpie · 30/11/2020 01:04

[quote jj1968]@StillAFeminist

Your response to someone thinking £5000 is a lot of money was basically ha ha I'd better not tell you my daily rate. £5000 is what sickness benefit claimants are expected to live on for a year. It's a lot of money to a lot of us, and I was in criticising your flippancy not the fact you have a successful career.[/quote]
And I was pointing out it isn’t that many days of professional advice

WildishBambino · 30/11/2020 00:37

WPUK think they are perfectly entitled to send out threatening legal letters threatening to sue for defamation when they have no grounds to do so as they cannot be legally defamed. They think they should have the right to sue, or at least use legal threats to silence criticism, but not be subject to the same pressures or accountability themselves.

The individuals running WPUK can be defamed, if they are associated with the allegations made against the association. Similarly, the individuals running WPUK can be sued if defamatory statements are made by WPUK.

HTH. Yes, I am a lawyer.

persistentwoman · 30/11/2020 00:32

[quote jj1968]@StillAFeminist

Your response to someone thinking £5000 is a lot of money was basically ha ha I'd better not tell you my daily rate. £5000 is what sickness benefit claimants are expected to live on for a year. It's a lot of money to a lot of us, and I was in criticising your flippancy not the fact you have a successful career.[/quote]
Methinks someone doth protest too much Grin grin]

WaveWalker · 30/11/2020 00:18

@Al77

Nice work WPUK. Honesty and transparency.

Good news about Lush, though I am not fully convinced, they are selling Trans flag soap, and then all the shop window sign shenanigans and the gender pay gap headlines. I emailed Lush PR department to say I am watching with interest and would really like to resume buying from them as I will miss my orchid cleanser when it runs out. They don't need to support women's groups, they just need to remain unbiased and not take sides.

I also use bath bombs, henna blocks, ultrabland, lust perfume, vanilla perfume, tea tree cleanser and buy stocking fillers from there, so I hope they are going to stay neutral in future or I'm gone for good.
I have found a marvellous long term substitute for all my proctor and gamble products since the tampax debacle so I expect I can find good alternatives to my Lush favorites too.

This happened the other year www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44356733

They're still exploitative muppets afaik.

StillAHarpie · 30/11/2020 00:16

@boatyardblues

Aside from showcasing what a tight ship WPUK and how well they are using available funds, this thread is pure comedy gold. 🤣

💪 to all you no-nonsense (awful harpies) professional women for explaining how it is out in the real world, as opposed to the conspiracy theorist whackjob Twittersphere. 👌

Thank-you Grin

(Formerly StillAFeminist)

jj1968 · 30/11/2020 00:15

@StillAFeminist

Your response to someone thinking £5000 is a lot of money was basically ha ha I'd better not tell you my daily rate. £5000 is what sickness benefit claimants are expected to live on for a year. It's a lot of money to a lot of us, and I was in criticising your flippancy not the fact you have a successful career.

yourhairiswinterfire · 30/11/2020 00:12

Them nasty witches, thinking they're entitled to defend themselves against lies! Why won't they just fucking stay quiet whilst we're trying to burn them, dammit!

persistentwoman · 30/11/2020 00:08

I’m resolutely non apologetic for being a woman who has worked hard and achieved professional success as well as worked hard at being a mum and a grandmother

Indeed StillAFeminist I think Rebecca West best summed up that type of misogynistic thinking when she said I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat

Some people would like women to be silent and kept away from influence and the public /professional space. It's not often seen on here but at the moment.....

Mollyollydolly · 30/11/2020 00:06

@334bu

Is that the same David Paisley whose letter denouncing some "horrible mean women who won't shut up " was signed by some people who didn't even know that such a letter existed?
The very same. He's a busy lad, cancelling Boyz, defaming women in Scotland, supporting Irish Amnesty, and now Lush. What a week!
boatyardblues · 30/11/2020 00:03

Aside from showcasing what a tight ship WPUK and how well they are using available funds, this thread is pure comedy gold. 🤣

💪 to all you no-nonsense (awful harpies) professional women for explaining how it is out in the real world, as opposed to the conspiracy theorist whackjob Twittersphere. 👌

334bu · 30/11/2020 00:02

Is that the same David Paisley whose letter denouncing some "horrible mean women who won't shut up " was signed by some people who didn't even know that such a letter existed?

StillAFeminist · 29/11/2020 23:57

@persistentwoman

Yes we all know how loaded a lot of GC activists are. And I think it shows in the entilement that seems to be a ommon theme including here

Wow - posting on a feminist board complaining about women earning their own income that ...(checks notes) "shows the entitlement" Grin Grin

Heaven forfend that women should ever have careers, be successful, have an independent income.... Methinks someone's anti-women views are being displayed (yet again)

Can’t win, we’re either regarded as “just mums” and irrelevant or if regarded as earning a professional income we’re entitled Grin

I’m resolutely non apologetic for being a woman who has worked hard and achieved professional success as well as worked hard at being a mum and a grandmother

Mollyollydolly · 29/11/2020 23:56

The delightful David Paisley is ranting about Lush tonight .. lining them up for his next 'campaign.' The delicious irony it being Lush.

MaudTheInvincible · 29/11/2020 23:54

If you use solicitor's letters to request your rights are respected, rather than a baying twitter mob, you are a right wing, bigoted, wealthy, wrong side of history, dark money, wrong crowd, nazi, kkk, witch. So ner.

GCAcademic · 29/11/2020 23:42

@334bu

God forbid a woman should dare to complain!
Put the scold’s bridle on, Karen!
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