WPUK have released a financial statement showing money received by source and how it is spent

P*nk News have an article about the Lush grant donotlink.it/ML2ZJE

Ooh, quick tangent but that reminds me, a detransitioner (FtMtF) has been reading and reviewing the Shrier book chapter by chapter:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=PllbYA56Uzg&list=PLLrGgDjZHP-53OmpbN9GJTw41DaiEUtAz&index=1

It is the 'educate yourself' inference, followed by the 'I haven't bothered reading what you are talking about, I just knows cos I read it on twitter that they must be wrong. Everyone on twitter there agrees and they have not read it either.'

I have even seen two posters refer to 'Irreversible Damage' as being hateful and full of misinformation. Yet, they have not read it and don't intend to.

I am surprised after the last week or two of these wild claims that keep getting proven false or unfounded that they feel they have any credibility. It must be hard to also discover that sometimes even their chorus line cannot back them up.

are we sure jj isn't deep undercover gc, playing the bad cop role to help to tease out the evidence and arguments??

The sheer length and pomposity of the screeds says no.
Female socialisation doesn’t allow us to make those kinds of demands on a reader’s time!

are we sure jj isn't deep undercover gc, playing the bad cop role to help to tease out the evidence and arguments??

Thats the only explanation that would make sense

I did! I’m not sure that the activist in question who urged me to do so back in the halcyon days of 2014 or so quite expected where I would end up as a result of that education.

A trajectory followed by many women.

Yes, I think it is to do that, and to totally derail the meaningful discussion on the topics at hand and make women talk about whatever the bad-faith poster wants.

Generally speaking, the only way to avoid this on any forum is for people to scroll past disruption and not engage.

It has been a useful reminder what amazing work these organisations are doing and to mark Keira's Day (I'm keeping everything crossed - minutes away now), I will donate to them - it sounds like it will be needed in general whichever way the verdict goes.

The self-ownage on this thread is immense 😆

I think ‘educate yourself’ might actually have been an even bigger own goal than ‘no debate’

I love a demand to “educate myself”

I did! I’m not sure that the activist in question who urged me to do so back in the halcyon days of 2014 or so quite expected where I would end up as a result of that education.

It was being told to educate myself that bought me here, through the radicalisation portal!

the women on this board have been politely pointing out in what way your accusations are false with many links

The positive is that through the constant wriggling and diverting, these threads become very informative, so it is an own goal. Like demands to ‘educate yourself’.

JJ1968 being a bit disingenuous here

jj1968 I’m discussing their accounts on thread on a discussion board about their accounts just like everyone else on this thread. There are thousands of posts on this forum discussing trans supportive organisations, but one trans person has the nerve to discuss a GC organisation and apparently it’s none of my business and misogyny. The double standards are breathtaking

jj you are discussing these on a feminist forum, making countless posts with baseless accusations and the women on this board have been politely pointing out in what way your accusations are false with many links to government organisations etc and urging you to contact the Hmrc if you really believe wpuk are not paying tax. You are also being unpleasant in how you berate some of the posters and yes we do think your posts show misogyny. Although honestly by this point i think most of us are bewildered at the continuation of your baseless accusations more than anything else

Do you really believe a lone woman venturing onto a trans forum would be treated as politely? If so please point me to such a forum and I’ll go post

Is it to bury the reasoned and informed posts under an avalanche of spurious and distractionary posts?

Yes, I think it is to do that, and to totally derail the meaningful discussion on the topics at hand and make women talk about whatever the bad-faith poster wants.

Sadly, it is like other threads where posters ignore the fact they have no evidence to support their claims, and state that they don’t wish to actually read what the ‘hate’ group is saying (which is actually completely in line with, you know, safeguarding and government guidelines) because ... well that might expose them to their ignorance...

However, these posters (and there are a few) continue to go around and around and around trying all kind of tactics, which just continue to prove how biased and completely uninformed their position is. Is it to bury the reasoned and informed posts under an avalanche of spurious and distractionary posts?

I love the fact that some of these posters say they direct their mates over to see the ‘witches’ when any person looking sees that really unfounded claims get refuted with facts that are easily found and checked.

Some organisations really "punch above their weight" don't they? Donating to organisations like WPUK, Fair Play for Women and Transgender Trend is such good value as they are having such a positive impact on ensuring women and children's rights and safety as well as all their sterling work on ethical medical practice and the law.
Brilliant women.

Thank you Krispy. There were some things I hadn't considered - I've always considered the length of time it takes to get a DBS for example, as just a bureaucratic irritation but of course, on occasions it's critical when filling a post working with vulnerable women / children is being delayed.

Thanks for highlighting that, persistent woman. There's some good links in there to other groups campaigning on this issue. It's been good to see some media coverage about the horrible increase in domestic abuse during the pandemic, but it would be great to see some action taken by the government.

As this thread is being so helpfully kept at the top of the board, thought it would be useful to link WPUK's thoughts on the pandemic and domestic and sexual violence. It's important reading .

womansplaceuk.org/coronavirus-urgent-actions-needed-to-end-domestic-and-sexual-violence/

This thread is hilarious. I’ve now reported to the HMRC the WPUK, the local football club and the old folks lunch club for using perfectly legal structures to carry out their activities for their members.

There are thousands of posts on this forum discussing trans supportive organisations, but one trans person has the nerve to discuss a GC organisation and apparently it's none of my business and misogyny.

Yes, there have been threads about Stonewall and Mermaids and other similar organisations, but I don't think any of them have had repetitive accusations about not declaring their taxes or anything.

There have been threads about the way they are financed with public money and are taking money off companies and public bodies whose employees are then 'trained' in interesting interpretations of the Equality Act. But this sort of scrutiny is important with these charities which receive a lot of government funding. And of course the effect on the organisations which have received this 'training' is also worth discussing.

If you think what WPUK is campaigning for is inappropriate, perhaps you would like to elaborate on what it is you think is wrong with their stated aims and we could discuss that. It might be more productive than just continuing to bleat that you think there's something wrong with the way they handle their finances. You've made your point there (again and again and again), and I think your next action should be to contact HMRC if you really think there's something amiss.

There's no point in you continuing to repeat yourself over and over because we've seen it already. This is getting as bad as your toilet obsession on other threads.

Why is WPUK always under attack no matter what they do? Perhaps one or all of the following might hold the answer?

1st rule of misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do.
2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
4th rule of misogyny: Women's opinions are violence against men thus male violence against women is justified.
5th rule of misogyny: Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
6th rule of misogyny: Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breast feeding babies deserve punishment.
7th rule of misogyny: Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9th rule of misogyny: Men always know the "real reasons" for everything women do and say.
10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad*

Who is responsible for the money?

Why do you care jj? If you think they're doing something wrong, then report them to HMRC or something. What's the point of all this mud slinging on here about them? What are you trying to achieve?