WPUK have released a financial statement showing money received by source and how it is spent

"£50,000 in ticket sales sounds a lot like trading to me."

Really? For 27 live events? Doesn't sound like a lot to me at all - and my only experience with this stuff is the village fete!

It's no secret that the co-founders of WPUK are Ruth Serwotka, Kiri Tunks and Judith Green. Other members of the campaign can be gleaned from those on events listed as a WPUK speaker if one is really interested. There's nothing to see here at all. WPUK have a PO Box for obvious reasons.

I don't think they are trying to evade taxes. I think they are trying to evade accountability by not having named directors/trustees.

This is what is really bugging you isn’t it? Not having names and addresses of individuals that can be threatened, stalked, harassed, reported for ‘hate incidents’, made the victims of vexatious litigation, harass their employers and family and friends, remove from their work...

Also a change of tune on taxes there I note.

"£50,000 in ticket sales sounds a lot like trading to me."

Don't be so bloody silly! Have you any idea of the costs in setting up meetings and conferences?

I've done it for our charitable childminding association and we're lucky to break even, despite good ticket sales - and that's without the added security measures that WPUK need to prevent the lunatics trying to disrupt the meeting.

It really is important, when you’re making baseless accusations, that you make accurate baseless accusations, don’t you think?

Quite.

Your first post was about taxes and HMRC.

You were told that was bobbins, so you shifted to shady insinuations about the structure, but still wanged on about HMRC. look, I’m feeling charitable, so I’ll help you out here. If you think they’re missing a trick there, then you need to vaguely threaten them with a report to Companies House, not HMRC.

They’ll tell you to jog on, of course, but you don’t seem to mind that.

It really is important, when you’re making baseless accusations, that you make accurate baseless accusations, don’t you think?

£50,000 in ticket sales sounds a lot like trading to me.

Oh bless you think income = profit! May I suggest a GCSE in Business Studies.

I think I would actually have more respect for that than for the behaviour I've seen on here.

£50,000 in ticket sales sounds a lot like trading to me. Against how much in costs for said events... selective reading + no idea how such organisations work = very uninformed posting!

Having opened a similarly not for profit, run by volunteers, local organisation I know how it works.

I think, with the evidence presented front and centre (not that it should be necessary to do so), I am inclined, for once, to tut disapprovingly and turn my back.

And when you see proof that they are... what will you sling at them next?

They probably kick puppies and kittens or sumfink...

Pshaw!

evade accountability ???

I was very happy to pay for a ticket to one of their events, and I'm very happy for their speakers to be paid.

"Why won't a group that is attacked, threatened with violence and called fascists list the details of their team so it is easier to attack, threaten with violence and call them fascists as individuals?".

Jj you are an embarrassment.
Honestly I feel quite sorry for you.

Why on earth shouldn't a front line activist get paid for preparing and giving a talk?

I'm impressed at how thrifty WPUK seem to be, they've got some good value for the things they've paid for.

And someone pointed out that they have money in the bank. (aka "profit"). Well that's good, we don't know what's coming next, good that they have money to organise the next part of the campaign/ events when allowed/ legal challenges/ research etc. Should the need for WPUK disappear there seems no end of worthy causes they could donate whatever is left to.

jj1968

How many organisations trying to evade paying tax publish their income and outgoings statements online and publicly available? Think it through.

Been running for over a decade and some years have had have a turn over of a similar amount to WPUK. Never made more than 5k profit in a year though, and any individuals/venues paid for services (equivalent of visiting speakers) pay their own taxes, so the government isn’t interested in us.

Anyone familiar with organising community groups will be aware of this kind of structure. Charitable status is a massive and unnecessary ball ache if you aren’t grant chasers.

(I mean the smearers)

It never stops, and not having the faintest idea what they’re talking about never inhibits these armchair critics from weighing right in 😂

I'm intrigued to know what tax liability people think WPUK has. No employees so no NICS. No profit so no corporation tax. Presumably WPUK pays VAT on supplier invoices where applicable. No investments or property.

It never stops, does it?

jj1968, thanks for reminding me. I haven't donated to WPUK this year, so that's another £100 for them.

Have you never been a part of a club or association? You don't pay tax on donations or grants for projects.

Is there any point at which TRAs will drop the wilful ignorance and lies and accept material and HMRC reality?