WPUK have released a financial statement showing money received by source and how it is spent

From the Gov U.K. website

An ‘unincorporated association’ is an organisation set up through an agreement between a group of people who come together for a reason other than to make a profit (for example, a voluntary group or a sports club).
You don’t need to register an unincorporated association, and it doesn’t cost anything to set one up.

Individual members are personally responsible for any debts and contractual obligations.

Hope this helps.

[quote PlonitbatPlonit]More focus on the brilliant work that WPUK do with their money (this time in the Cherwell) donotlink.it/29Jb7G[/quote]
Ah yes, the Women’s Lib conference!

That was a wild weekend on this board, IIRC. Not sure why it’s now being treated as if it were some kind of crazy backhanded funding revelation

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3835315-Selina-Todd-has-been-disinvited-from-Womens-Liberation-at-50-because-of-association-with-WPUK

More focus on the brilliant work that WPUK do with their money (this time in the Cherwell) donotlink.it/29Jb7G

Sorry Kazzy. Should I spend a few hours explaining what community/ social enterprises are? I started one last year, spent months researching the varying legalities of various set ups, including CiC. We ended up exactly as WPUK did.

Legal, supported by HMRC exactly as we are and providing workshops and support for hundreds of people.

There is NOTHING wrong with how they are set up. NOTHING!

Kazzyhoward there is a full explanation in the thread from various poster but briefly

WPUK is not a charity, they dont get the tax benefits of being a charity and they dont have the (onerous) reporting rules of a charity

There are perfectly legal (and government/Hmrc approved) mechanisms for social enterprises. Many Many women get involved in all sorts of social enterprises from setting up different childcare structures to support groups. So many posters here are familiar with how they get set up and run and there is nothing about how WPUK is running that looks untoward.

Social enterprises aren’t required to have and publish fully audited accounts, and in some cases are discouraged from doing so as it would take too much of the money collected to perform the purpose of the social enterprise. If the numbers of people involved in the organisation are small it isn’t always helpful to set up for formal structure. As the enterprise grows more formality gets added. If it becomes an charity or a company it gets various advantages and alongside those it gets more obligations.

WPUK is a campaigning group that organises meetings. It doesnt own anything, it doesnt have formal membership, it doesnt need audited accounts or a formal structure.

OK that was less brief than I’d intended

Why don’t you contact WPUK and ask?

fyi a friend of mine wasn't paid for some work by a photographer so she phoned up Customs and Exercise and dobbed him in it- within HOURS they were round removing files. So JJ honestly JUST PICK UP THE PHONE ! Our civil servants do their jobs.

Is it a limited company?
Is it a registered charity?
Is it a formal "club or society"?
Is it a partnership?
Is it a limited liability partnership?

There are vague comments about it's format, but I've not seen a single post saying exactly what it's legal format is.

Alternatively you could try contacting the White House and asking if Melania still has the infamous jacket and if she will sell it to you, at a fairly traded price of course.

Lolz Kazzy
If you take the time to read the thread there is plenty of posters carefully explaining the situation.

if I can't sleep any night soon I'm hopping on to read the collected boring posts of JJ

The lack of clarification over formal structure is pretty worrying. To comply with HMRC, company law and/or charity commissioner rules, it MUST have some kind of formal legal structure. Those "accounts" aren't really accounts at all - even the smallest/simplest of registered charities need to present accounts in a formal format. Nor is there any sign of a formal audit or independent review of the accounts (which may be required dependant upon legal structure). It all looks to be an amateur bodge job.

Didn't Pink News get sued for their bullshit before? You'd think they'd have learned to wind their necks in a bit.

WPUK response to Pink News womansplaceuk.org/2020/12/02/wpuk-funding-lush-and-pink-news/

Or is it just one of those "We Are Borg" things?

OMG yes! That's what the constant sound-bites reminds me of!

Thank you.

Shockingly, the group suggested it was unaware of the identity of one of the donors, and that the funding was “currently quarantined pending verification”. So, amongst other similarly convoluted witterings, PN finds it shocking that any organisation would temporarily freeze a deposit whilst they look at who it is from? My how they choose to mangle words! Does anyone actually fall for this any more?

Having said that, the tone and phrasing of some of that article sounds very familar... I wonder if someone here is also someone there? Or is it just one of those "We Are Borg" things?

I really think yo should be reporting them to HMRC, or whoever is resposible for that particular compaint. If I was so sure about something, as sure as you appear to be (though which point you are sure of we don't know) I would certainly do this.

Yes. In the words of my Nanna,

‘Shit. Or get off the pot.’

There are thousands of posts on this forum discussing trans supportive organisations, but one trans person has the nerve to discuss a GC organisation and apparently it's none of my business and misogyny.

Fairly sure noone would have a issue on 'discussing' a GC organisation. Its..well the way it happens. Just endless accusations, sometimes even arguing the opposite of a previous point, the constant shifting of goalposts and such. Its really weird to watch. Given how strongly concerned you are about WP paying taxes, or getting a 5 quid donaton from someone far right, or apparently hiding their board and such..or whatever your issue is right now, I really think yo should be reporting them to HMRC, or whoever is resposible for that particular compaint. If I was so sure about something, as sure as you appear to be (though which point you are sure of we don't know) I would certainly do this. Though of course still, you don't care about them at all. Nope. I expect you would not want to waste your own time reporting a group that you have so little interest in though, even though you seem extremely interested in them.

I suppose if the kiddos get riled up in sunny delight and haribos they will kick off again on the morning.

To be fair, the following is not bad in terms of not backing down nor scratching around desperately for an insincere apology

^“To make our stance clear, we do not believe that trans rights are a threat to women’s rights. Our belief is that a decent society should be able to structure itself to give rights and protection to all who need it.
Those who are on the margins should not have to fight other marginalised groups to get the protections they deserve and have a right to – we should all be fighting together for a world free from discrimination of any kind, where all people can live their life to its fullest potential in peace and free from fear. We hope our charity pot grants will always continue to contribute towards this vision.”^

Shame lush were too far down the purity spiral plug hole for this to make any difference.

Makes you wonder if their previous ‘Fuck off boring old cunty women’ position has affected their profits...

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of lads.

Lush is trending and the outcry is very loud!

Purity spiral .... tightened!