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Reading the Guardian

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littlebitupset · 28/11/2020 10:16

Always read the Guardian but didn't fully realise what was happening to Suzanne Moore until she left. Am horrified at her treatment.

I'm now conflicted with some of the remaining columnists, who I previously admired but now wonder how they can stay and, in my opinion, look like they support the signature list that went around even if they didn't sign it. (I don't know who did sign it).

Hadley Freeman springs to mind the most.

Where is the solidarity?

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MaMaLa321 · 28/11/2020 10:48

speaking as someone who took the paper as a default position for years, then stopped after their coverage of Cologne NYE, move on. Read other papers. There's good stuff out there. My OH reads the Guardian on Saturdays and, when I glance at it, the journalism always seems pretty poor (at least compared to the FT, which do read regularly).
I haven't missed the Guardian at all.

BrassicaRabbit · 28/11/2020 10:47

I skimmed the list of signatories and really wish I hadn't. A couple who I really liked were on there, plus a good friend of a friend. Weirdly, a columnist I am quite critical of for being light weight and ill informed, was not there.

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littlebitupset · 28/11/2020 10:33

I'm just fizzing on her behalf. It's just so unjust. No place for debate, just a boot out the door.

These are icons for women ffs getting treated like pariahs.

It's an old fashioned witch hunt.

I suspect time will not be kind to those making the decisions. Justice has a way of working its way back.

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Floisme · 28/11/2020 10:29

Hadley Freeman defended her from the start and I can well imagine she's feeling the heat right now.
Susannah Rustin (a leader writer) has recently spoken up for her (Moore) on Twitter and apologised for not saying anything sooner.
Polly Toynbee tweeted something pointed and very supportive when Suzanne left.
John Harris and Marina Hyde also tweeted in support when she left but in vaguer terms.
There may be more.

Orangeblossom7777 · 28/11/2020 10:27

It's a gloomy and depressing read anyway.

Mollyollydolly · 28/11/2020 10:24

Hadley has been very supportive of her. Another woman who's name I cant just remember has been very supportive too. Think it's been pretty unpleasant for them too.

BettyDuKeiraBellisMyShero · 28/11/2020 10:24

Hadley has defended Moore, but no doubt has her own mortgage to think of. It’s not easy to replace a job like that but I’m sure it’s almost as shit working conditions for her as it was Moore.

Hopefully both will find more suitable work environments in the near future. Clearly the Guardian is a hostile environment for women who understand material reality.

TomatoesAreFruit · 28/11/2020 10:24

I am sad to do it, but I try to avoid clicking on any guardian news stories.

I feel that the guardian should be for someone like me, but it isn't. Furthermore, because of Owen Jones and co, I actively want to avoid it.

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littlebitupset · 28/11/2020 10:19

Oh I do hope so.

Apparently people had signed the letter who she thought were friends. Truly awful. I can't even imagine how betrayed she must feel.

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madmarchmare · 28/11/2020 10:18

Hadley has spoken out against Moore's treatment I think?

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