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BBC Article- ‘Involve women in decision making’

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AppleKatie · 27/11/2020 18:13

They highlight the particular importance of involving women in the decision-making.

The document says "messaging should be supportive of women adapting traditions and encouraging those around them to share the burden and to be supportive of any alterations to adapt for Covid-19 restrictions".

WTF is it just me? Have I gone mad? Slipped into a parallel universe?

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ethelredonagoodday · 30/11/2020 07:57

On all levels, it's an utterly bizarre article.

AppleKatie · 30/11/2020 07:51

The burden isn’t shared until 50% of the conversations are ‘James can you do the pots and I’ll do the carrots’ said Fred.

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NewLockdownNewMe · 29/11/2020 03:46

@GurpsAgain it does, but wouldn’t it be better if Fred said “I’ll do the washing up love, you always do it”. Why should the burden be on her to ask?

GurpsAgain · 29/11/2020 03:37

E.g. this year she says “it’s your turn to do the washing up, Fred.”

GurpsAgain · 29/11/2020 03:37

Could it not mean adapting the tradition of leaving everything to the women, and instead encouraging others to ‘share the burden’?

Orangeblossom7777 · 29/11/2020 02:45

I saw this too and wondered if they had maybe picked up on some stuff about women being better at doing covid stuff through some of their surveys perhaps. They have reported about women being better at following rules than men I think. So maybe that is the underlying aim..

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201005092343.htm

ChattyLion · 28/11/2020 14:35

Wouldn’t it be lovely if the BBC was advocating involving women in decision-making, about stuff that wasn’t just taking on the responsibility for keeping everyone else COVID safe, fed and entertained at Christmas? Hmm

AppleKatie · 28/11/2020 09:35

Sad Angry

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KindKylie · 28/11/2020 09:24

Absolutely shocking quote!

Babytalkobsession · 27/11/2020 22:48

Came here to see if anyone else had noticed. Wtf?!

Anonandonandonandon · 27/11/2020 22:42

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midgebabe · 27/11/2020 21:47

Damn, sorry , ignore previous, poor loading of the page made me think it hadn't been picked up already

midgebabe · 27/11/2020 21:46

Didn't the preceding sentance say something along the lines of women bear a disproportionate amount of the mental load of organising Christmas , in light of which saying they need to be involved and supported actually makes sense

Yes it would be nice if it wasn't women's work, but since it is and we are dealing with a crisis, let's get people through it first, whilst recognising at the same time it is nit a sex neutral issue

HecatesCats · 27/11/2020 21:38

WinkHmmConfused

AppleKatie · 27/11/2020 21:23

And yet here I am, still furious about it engaged in two Whatsapp conversations with two female relatives about Christmas bubbles. Hmm

FML

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Cozytoesandtoast00 · 27/11/2020 20:27

I was shocked when I read this too. My god.

AppleKatie · 27/11/2020 20:22

🤦‍♀️It’s so depressing isn’t it.

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ChattyLion · 27/11/2020 20:03

🤯 I came on here to see if there was a thread because I just read that and couldn’t fucking believe it

Al1langdownthecleghole · 27/11/2020 19:23

Fabulous. Please help the women.

No. Please take responsibility yourselves.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 27/11/2020 18:52

My godmothers, that quote is very different from the article. The BBC is 50 shades of fucked up these days, isn't it?

Purpler5 · 27/11/2020 18:45

Thank goodness it’s not just me who thought I was seeing things. I couldn’t work out this crazy reporting from the BBC at all Confused

AppleKatie · 27/11/2020 18:39

The actual quote has calmed me down a little (thanks). Now I’m just raging at the BBC. I mean they have editors still checking copy don’t they??

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HecatesCats · 27/11/2020 18:32

Yes! And it's then been reported badly

NewLockdownNewMe · 27/11/2020 18:32

I think what they’re actually trying to say is: men, take some responsibility. But, they’ve tried to be supportive and ended up saying: “this is impacting women negatively: women, sort it out!”

NewLockdownNewMe · 27/11/2020 18:30

Here’s the full quote from the actual sage paper:

Gender equality. The impact of the pandemic has been considered gender regressive as women have experienced increased unpaid care responsibilities due to the heightened need to care for elderly family members and childcare due to school and nursery closures16. It is therefore especially important to involve women in decision making about creating safer household environments, and to promote gender equity in communications and policies relating to household social interactions.